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re: Update
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:13 pm to dos crystal
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:13 pm to dos crystal
Crowton won a NC. Who cares ab bledso. He did that on his own, right?
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Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:15 pm to dos crystal
This is a mistake. We can't find anyone competent enough to withstand the Les Miles ego. Figures.
This program has an Anchor around it's foot with the offense and Miles refuses to cut it loose. Instead he opts to tie on an Anvil and say, frick it.
This program has an Anchor around it's foot with the offense and Miles refuses to cut it loose. Instead he opts to tie on an Anvil and say, frick it.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:17 pm to Cajun Revolution
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This is a mistake. We can't find anyone competent enough to withstand the Les Miles ego. Figures.
This program has an Anchor around it's foot with the offense and Miles refuses to cut it loose. Instead he opts to tie on an Anvil and say, frick it.
Kragthorpe is competent. Not as a head coach, but that would not be his job. What other pro-style offensive coordinators are out there that are good enough for you? You're going to bitch regardless, so keep that bullshite to yourself.
You cannot honestly be implying that Kragthorpe is like Crowton..
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 3:18 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:23 pm to Acreboy
Why do we think Steve Kragthorpe is a good OC again?
He has spent four years at OC, one at North Texas in 1994, and three at Texas A&M from 1998-2000.
I have no idea what his offensive rankings were during those years, but regardless of that, he hasn't been an offensive coordinator in more than 10 years.
His job at Tulsa is encouraging, but his offense seems to have been overrated during his tenure there. I can only see the offensive rankings for his final three years at Tulsa.
Kragthorpe at Tulsa ranked 40th, 23rd, and 37th in scoring offense his final three years there - pretty decent for a small school like Tulsa, but nothing that stunning, considering Tulsa's scoring offense rankings the next four years after Kragthorpe left: 7th, 2nd, 44th, 8th.
Why do we think Steve Kragthorpe is a good QB coach again?
He coached Rob Johnson, Drew Bledsoe, and Alex Van Pelt during his two years as the Bills' QB coach. Drew Bledsoe had just been acquired by the Bills in free agency, and in his first year, he made the Pro Bowl. For some reason, people seem to think this one good season translates into Kragthorpe being an awesome offensive coordinator. Few people seem to realize that Drew Bledsoe had already played in the league for about 10 seasons and was already a good quarterback.
We all know his most recent track record as HC. So what makes people still want to hire him? Because he's better than Crowton? Yes, he is. But if Crowton's the 30th best option we have (and that's being generous), Kragthorpe is maybe the 25th. We have so many other better candidates ( LINK ), and we should hire one of them.
He has spent four years at OC, one at North Texas in 1994, and three at Texas A&M from 1998-2000.
I have no idea what his offensive rankings were during those years, but regardless of that, he hasn't been an offensive coordinator in more than 10 years.
His job at Tulsa is encouraging, but his offense seems to have been overrated during his tenure there. I can only see the offensive rankings for his final three years at Tulsa.
Kragthorpe at Tulsa ranked 40th, 23rd, and 37th in scoring offense his final three years there - pretty decent for a small school like Tulsa, but nothing that stunning, considering Tulsa's scoring offense rankings the next four years after Kragthorpe left: 7th, 2nd, 44th, 8th.
Why do we think Steve Kragthorpe is a good QB coach again?
He coached Rob Johnson, Drew Bledsoe, and Alex Van Pelt during his two years as the Bills' QB coach. Drew Bledsoe had just been acquired by the Bills in free agency, and in his first year, he made the Pro Bowl. For some reason, people seem to think this one good season translates into Kragthorpe being an awesome offensive coordinator. Few people seem to realize that Drew Bledsoe had already played in the league for about 10 seasons and was already a good quarterback.
We all know his most recent track record as HC. So what makes people still want to hire him? Because he's better than Crowton? Yes, he is. But if Crowton's the 30th best option we have (and that's being generous), Kragthorpe is maybe the 25th. We have so many other better candidates ( LINK ), and we should hire one of them.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:23 pm to Cajun Revolution
Kragthorpe is certainly an underwhelming hire, but he's had success in the past, so I'd be willing to give him a shot
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:23 pm to Cajun Revolution
quote:dude, quit being a blowhard...
CajunRevolution
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:24 pm to belowpar
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I hear kragthorpe is leading candidate.
Is this really the best OC candidate that LSU can attract? I am all about replacing Crowton, but Kragthorpe does not excite me.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:26 pm to bmy
The guy has never coached on any level a ranked team, assistant or otherwise. When he took over Louisville fulltime he pretty much tanked the offense over three years. In fact, it went from too 10 to damn near 100. He coached one Pro QB for one year that had a decent year. In fact, Brian Brohm has sucked arse since his senior season at Louisville with Kragthorpe.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:27 pm to tigersandjets
quote:good post. why LSU should settle for anything other than a top level offensive mind is the question ppl should be asking. Will he be better than Crowton? ofcourse, but that doesn't mean it'd be a great hire.
Why do we think Steve Kragthorpe is a good OC again?
He has spent four years at OC, one at North Texas in 1994, and three at Texas A&M from 1998-2000.
I have no idea what his offensive rankings were during those years, but regardless of that, he hasn't been an offensive coordinator in more than 10 years.
His job at Tulsa is encouraging, but his offense seems to have been overrated during his tenure there. I can only see the offensive rankings for his final three years at Tulsa.
Kragthorpe at Tulsa ranked 40th, 23rd, and 37th in scoring offense his final three years there - pretty decent for a small school like Tulsa, but nothing that stunning, considering Tulsa's scoring offense rankings the next four years after Kragthorpe left: 7th, 2nd, 44th, 8th.
Why do we think Steve Kragthorpe is a good QB coach again?
He coached Rob Johnson, Drew Bledsoe, and Alex Van Pelt during his two years as the Bills' QB coach. Drew Bledsoe had just been acquired by the Bills in free agency, and in his first year, he made the Pro Bowl. For some reason, people seem to think this one good season translates into Kragthorpe being an awesome offensive coordinator. Few people seem to realize that Drew Bledsoe had already played in the league for about 10 seasons and was already a good quarterback.
We all know his most recent track record as HC. So what makes people still want to hire him? Because he's better than Crowton? Yes, he is. But if Crowton's the 30th best option we have (and that's being generous), Kragthorpe is maybe the 25th. We have so many other better candidates ( LINK ), and we should hire one of them.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 3:27 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:28 pm to Chicken
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quote:
CajunRevolution
dude, quit being a blowhard...
Did you choose the feathers you're born with?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:29 pm to tigersandjets
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We all know his most recent track record as HC. So what makes people still want to hire him? Because he's better than Crowton? Yes, he is. But if Crowton's the 30th best option we have (and that's being generous), Kragthorpe is maybe the 25th. We have so many other better candidates ( LINK ), and we should hire one of them.
What's really interesting is that Kragthorpe is on that list you provided.
I saw a few good names.
Andy Ludwig, Kliff Kingsbury, Lincoln Riley. Belowpar said that he is interviewing 3 OCs, one of which is Kragthorpe. If Krag doesn't get the job, there are two other options. I'd love an air-raid guy as our OC, but a change in philosophy should happen during a rebuilding year.. not during an SEC championship run.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:35 pm to belowpar
who else besides kragthorpe?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:36 pm to Books
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Crowton won a NC. Who cares ab bledso. He did that on his own, right?
drew bledsoe, absolutely. for those who believe in the coach "developing" qb's, put a check by steve k. name. you should like that!
for those that don't like crowton's history, krag doesn't show a downward trend at his stops. another check, you should like that as well!
man, what do you want?
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:39 pm to tigersandjets
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His job at Tulsa is encouraging, but his offense seems to have been overrated during his tenure there. I can only see the offensive rankings for his final three years at Tulsa.
Kragthorpe at Tulsa ranked 40th, 23rd, and 37th in scoring offense his final three years there - pretty decent for a small school like Tulsa, but nothing that stunning, considering Tulsa's scoring offense rankings the next four years after Kragthorpe left: 7th, 2nd, 44th, 8th.
considering he took a team over that won two games in two years. that's pretty damn good.
Secondly, he obviously left the program in great shape talent wise for the next coach to produce
7th, 2nd, 44th, 8th.
it's all in how you want to look at it.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:42 pm to northLAgoomba
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Is this really the best OC candidate that LSU can attract? I am all about replacing Crowton, but Kragthorpe does not excite me.
According to the ranters who want to run Miles off...
LSU should have all the top coaches fighting to get here.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:45 pm to Cajun Revolution
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The guy has never coached on any level a ranked team, assistant or otherwise.
texas a & m was pretty good while he was there. they won the big XII the year he was the o.c. 1998. maybe they were not ranked, i can't imagine a Big XII champ not ranked.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:46 pm to dos crystal
quote:he developed him like he developed Matt Flynn and Dennis Dixon
drew bledsoe, absolutely. for those who believe in the coach "developing" qb's, put a check by steve k. name. you should like that!
Posted on 1/5/11 at 3:58 pm to Books
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good post. why LSU should settle for anything other than a top level offensive mind is the question ppl should be asking. Will he be better than Crowton? ofcourse, but that doesn't mean it'd be a great hire.
no hire means it would be a great even a "top level offensive mind?.
with this mentality, you would not have been, and probably weren't, happy with jimbo or muschamp when saban hired them. Jim McElwain wasn't considered a great offensive mind either.
you need a guy who can coach/teach your philosophy and can recruit to it.
i don't know if krag is the guy or it's someone else. if he is good with qb's, is able to identifying good qb talent and teach a pro-set offense that miles wants to run, then great, lets get him. if he can't, lets get someone who can.
i showed antonio moss how stats can be made to show what you want them too. our offense ranked higher in the nation in 2006 than 2007. however, the 2007 offense produced larger numbers in yards, scoring, td's, ect.
what would you rather, the offense that was in top 15 in the nation or the offense that was in the 20's in the nation but best in school history?
one thing people miss with offensive stats. if you are winning, you're usually not attempting to score as much. you're trying to run clock and shorten the game.
This post was edited on 1/5/11 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 1/5/11 at 4:02 pm to jackson123
the best offensive coordinators are not looking for coordinator jobs. Florida is either lucky for getting weis or paying a frick load of money.
If lsu will authorize les 1 mil for a coordinator, he could get top shelf, otherwise we will have to settle for a mid grade guy that should work really well with the talent we have.
I am ok with krag.
anything, i mean ANYTHING is better then what we have.
If lsu will authorize les 1 mil for a coordinator, he could get top shelf, otherwise we will have to settle for a mid grade guy that should work really well with the talent we have.
I am ok with krag.
anything, i mean ANYTHING is better then what we have.
Posted on 1/5/11 at 4:03 pm to dreaux
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anything, i mean ANYTHING is better then what we have.
This x a kabillion
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