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re: *******Update 6:30***Tidbits on LSU OC search

Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:03 pm to
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32169 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:03 pm to
Mountain of evidence?

There is NO evidence that he promised any of those things, specifically.

Did he promise to hire great coaches and have great recruiting classes? I hope so.

If you think he was hired because he promised Kiffin and Dylan Moses, then you are a moron.
Posted by Blupard
Texas
Member since Sep 2016
620 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:06 pm to
Because his offense is not impressive. The games I saw they ran curl routes for days. Teams were catching on fast. Looked pretty frustrating.
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:08 pm to
quote:

There is NO evidence that he promised any of those things, specifically.
what do you want, sworn affidavits? his boys were "leaking" these things left and right.

quote:

If you think he was hired because he promised Kiffin and Dylan Moses, then you are a moron.
he was hired because of the future he said he could deliver, which he didnt. he sure as frick wasnt hired because of his past.
Posted by SoFresh
New Orleans
Member since May 2010
3069 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:15 pm to
quote:

which he didnt


You can't say this. He has been the head coach for 2 weeks. Hasn't even played one game yet since taking the reigns full time.
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
2095 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:15 pm to
So you're telling me that Orgeron hasn't been waiting on only Kiffin all this time? According to the rant, interviews only started as a mad scramble after they found out Kiffin was going to be a head coach. We can't believe the rant?


In all reality, thanks for the information. I'm pretty sure that anybody with sense understood that this was happening behind the scenes, but it is nice to get some confirmation.

Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
29475 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:16 pm to
quote:

If he makes a bad OC hire, he'll be gone before the recruits from this class ever make an impact. Recruiting is important and I've followed it for a long time, longer than most, but to live and die over every comment and commitment is a recipe for misery.


The problem with recruiting in regards to Orgeron is that it is his one previously unquestioned strength. He has always been regarded as a master recruiter. The way that he held the class together as interim demonstrated this, and I've praised him for it here. It was truly impressive.

However, the way he has bungled things since then has given a lot of fans some reason to worry. It would be one thing if we lost out on a target, but he has put the recruitment of two long committed players at a position of need in jeopardy unnecessarily. These were unforced errors. The out of left field offer to Tua, who we had 0 shot at, on the word of a guy who wasn't coming just looks ridiculous, no matter how anyone tries to spin it. It was a foolish and unnecessary mistake. This set the ball rolling to one guy questioning and another completely de-committing after his final visit. His conflicting comments about QBs didn't help, either, but if the Tua offer doesn't happen, I would bet both QBs are still committed right now.

Maybe you don't want to acknowledge this, but there are red flags here. The fact that they point to weakness where there should be unquestioned strength is legitimately unsettling. Now, if O hadn't made this mistake, maybe he COULD afford to wait longer to make an OC hire. Maybe his messages do come across clearer. However, I think he's forced his own hand here.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:19 pm
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
9914 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:19 pm to
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So just to be clear, if this post can be trusted, LSU did not hire its first or second choice for OC. We now have our third choice OC playing for our third choice HC. Dat binder, though.


Go eat a bag of dicks you raging fricktard!!! You sorry-arse whiny bitches are the problem here. This crap is out of control. Ohh, "Dat binder, though". WOW!!! How fricking original and hilarious!!! fricking moron.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:19 pm to
It's the instant gratification generation. Real life will hit them one day.
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:20 pm to
quote:

It's the instant gratification generation. Real life will hit them one day.


As much as they want it to be, TigerDroppings IS NOT a safe space.
Posted by fierysnowman
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
2095 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:21 pm to
You're mountain of evidence is hearsay and wouldn't hold up in court


Just saying
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

There are less sandy vaginas on the Poli Board than there are here.

No, we just don't like being fed bullshite

Kiffin was never coming here. That was a known fact. I even started 2 threads on here about that. LK promised Nick that it would not happen, and NS promised to do what he could to get a HC job. In the meantime, Ed O was given the LSU job based on who he could bring in

Enjoy - from 11/28

And again - from 12/4

Riley? Canada? Gilbert? Never mentioned until a certain someone read their names on here. Helfrich actually called LSU

So any movement on the OC front came after O got his shite kicked in with recruiting, by relying on someone who was NEVER coming here.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:22 pm to
Very well put!!!!

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32169 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:22 pm to
You said mountain of evidence. Those were your words.

Now it's anonymous leaks.

Now you're saying he's failed to deliver -- after two weeks.

I understand you didn't want Orgeron-- most of us didn't -- but you sound like a SJW bitching about Trump.

It's unbecoming.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:23 pm to
No stress cards here!

Fort Jackson Army BCT reference. (I went to Benning)
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:30 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
32169 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:26 pm to
Other than the fact that you did make an actual post on a message board, there's not a single fact in your post.

Congrats. That's not easy.
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:36 pm to
quote:

there's not a single fact in your post.

OK

that Kiffin was THE name in the binder wasn't a fact?

That Kiffin didn't come to LSU wasn't a fact?

Kiffin talking to multiple schools wasn't a fact?

Ed O screwing with recruits wasn't a fact?

That Alleva was sold on promises that didn't occur wasn't a fact?


And that was all posted 3 weeks ago. Twice
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
164657 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:37 pm to
Thanks bud.

Would have been a ballsy move by Riley to leave Stoops for O.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:45 pm to
However, people are always convicted in the court of public opinion.

It is sad because it is hard to find an impartial jury these days. I much rather bench trials now. It is amazing how many times people say a person is guilty because the police arrested him.


OT*** a civil trial case I tried.
Polling the jury once for a wrongful death suit, A juror told me "I didn't get any money when my momma died".

Me: How did she die?

Juror: cancer

Me: I'm sorry to hear that.

Juror: I did not think it was fair that your client would get money just because a drunk truck driver hit her.

Me: ?? Have a nice day

Note: Judge did over turn the jury verdict! Jury trials are like flipping a coin.

Point is people will believe what they want to believe and only look to reaffirm their own belief.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:48 pm
Posted by LSU Jax
Gator Country Hell
Member since Sep 2006
9914 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

theres actually a mountain of evidence that orgeron promised not only kiffin but dylan and a top 3 class. lets just say it, at this point it sure as hell looks like he got the job based on shite he made up. he lied, in other words. and he got others to do the same on his behalf in the media and on boards like this.


A mountain of evidence? That he promised Kiffin, Moses, and a top three class??? Where is this "mountain of evidence" a-hole? And you follow up YOUR lying bullshite by then calling Orgeron a liar. You truly are a piece of shite. frick you a-hole.
Posted by tigerbaitlawyer
Member since Jun 2016
1733 posts
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:48 pm to
OU is likely 1or 2 to start next year.
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:49 pm
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