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re: the next houston texans HC

Posted on 12/28/10 at 2:39 am to
Posted by arronrx
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 2:39 am to
I agree with you. Houston is a very attractive job with a lot of attractive pieces. I also agree with some of the other posters that say a defensive minded guy would be a good fit. You have a lot of talent on that defense, you need someone who knows how to utilize it. The guy I have in mind is John Fox once he is released from Carolina.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 9:43 am to
If I were Houston, I'd go after John Fox and try to get Rob Ryan as my defensive coordinator, Wade Phillips who is a good defensive coordinator but terrible head coach or Mike Singletary.

Ron Rivera is an interesting choice also. Always mentioned as a head coaching possibility, but always passed over.


What do you think about Jeff Fisher? How would the Houston fans accept the guy who was once their head coach before he left to go to Tenn?

I think the Vikings keep Frazier, but if they don't, what do you think about L. Frazier taking over that defense?

Nick Saban as a defensive guy? I don't think he goes anywhere for another two to three years, but they may make a run at him and just not give him personelle power.

Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:30 am to
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I'd go after John Fox
fox is the anti-miles. terrible record, but everyone still thinks hes brilliant despite the mounting evidence. the last 5 years, his win total has been 2(or 3), 8, 12, 7, 8. even that 12 win season- they didnt win a playoff game. just seems like we already a team hovering around .500
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get Rob Ryan as my defensive coordinator, Wade Phillips
both run a 3-4 D.
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Mike Singletary.
he can coach my LBers....
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What do you think about Jeff Fisher?
im ok with him. this town is so starved for a winner, i doubt anyone is still butt hurt over him leaving town and coaching a division rival
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what do you think about L. Frazier taking over that defense
i dont know much amount about him. he runs the 4-3, which fits our personnel. hes thought of pretty highly in the coaching community- i think we could do alot worse
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Nick Saban as a defensive guy?
not unless he wants to be the DC
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:39 am to
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get Rob Ryan as my defensive coordinator, Wade Phillips

both run a 3-4 D.


I'm pretty sure both can run a 4-3

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fox is the anti-miles. terrible record, but everyone still thinks hes brilliant despite the mounting evidence. the last 5 years, his win total has been 2(or 3), 8, 12, 7, 8. even that 12 win season- they didnt win a playoff game. just seems like we already a team hovering around .500


He's had a few rough years the last few years with Carolina. Mostly due to having a really bad QB with Moore, Clausen and Dellhome (Not to mention Steve Smith is their only good WR and he's missed a bunch of games the last few years). He's a solid coach though. Runs the ball and plays good defense.

He'd put Houston (which is more talented than Carolina at this point) into the playoffs IMO. I don't know if he'd win you a super bowl though.
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 10:54 am to
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I'd go after John Fox


would be an ok hire. The main reason the Panthers have struggled is lack of talent.

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Rob Ryan as my defensive coordinator,


he already has a DC job.

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Wade Phillips who is a good defensive coordinator but terrible head coach


agreed but I wouldn't say terrible. More like mediocre.

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Ron Rivera is an interesting choice also.


agreed.

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What do you think about Jeff Fisher?


I hope my team doesn't fire him.

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I think the Vikings keep Frazier, but if they don't


name him HC. I think he is ready and has done a nice job in Minn.
Posted by Moleman
Houston
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:00 am to
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What do you think about Jeff Fisher? How would the Houston fans accept the guy who was once their head coach before he left to go to Tenn?


Not only would the fans not like him but the locker room would never accept him. There is too much bad blood between the Texans and the Titans after all the dirty crap they have pulled.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:02 am to
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Rob Ryan as my defensive coordinator,


he already has a DC job.


Word is that Mangini may be gone. If so, I'd expect the coordinators to be gone also.
Posted by adammwilson
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Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:09 am to
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Word is that Mangini may be gone. If so, I'd expect the coordinators to be gone also.


good point.
Posted by LagdonCG
Member since Jul 2010
998 posts
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:15 am to
Jeff Fisher.....the ultimate insult to Bud Adams
Posted by adammwilson
Carrollton (GA)
Member since Jul 2009
21519 posts
Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:16 am to
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Bud Adams


I hate this guy.
Posted by stapuffmarshy
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Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 11:55 am to
fisher is the best hire for the Texans if both get fired
Posted by MrWiseGuy
Member since Dec 2009
27846 posts
Posted on 12/28/10 at 1:50 pm to
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Well, they had Capers before Kubiak era, and the offense was pretty awful (aside from a couple decent years from Dom Davis.) They've really got to strike a balance this time.


Capers coached an expansion team. Does he really count ? I know he was there for a good 5 years (at least, don't know the exact number of years) But I mean that OLINE was downright awful. Maybe some of the worst offensive lines EVER. David Carr was a bust too.

Someone mentioned John Fox and man I think you hit the nail on the head.

Posted by Angry LLAMA
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 12/28/10 at 2:40 pm to
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Bud Adams
I hate this guy


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