re: THANK GOD, LSU didn't hire Tom Herman

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So using this logic, Saban is a bad defensive coach because he gave up 40 to Ole Miss (a less talented team) on top pf 40 last year to Clemson (a less talented team) not to mention a slew of other games over the last 3-4 years.

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I posted Alabama's schedule for the last few years already. Bama has lost 3 games the last 3 years. Herman lost 3 games the second half of this season. Tom Herman is nothing like Nick Saban.

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even the worse games you show you are biased or don't know what you are talking about,

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Call it as I see it. I don't see how the worse games can be made into anything better than what they are. Losing to an SMU you are favored by over 22 points 38-16 while gaining 303 total yards for an offensive genius is BAD, no matter how you slice it.

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It is also the opinion of the vast majority of college football analysts and experts. You'd be hard pressed to find any neutral observor that would favor Orgeron over Herman.

and you'd find absolutely ZERO that would use this criteria:

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After losing to three inferior teams that he was favored to beat - one by 22 points - in his last 7 games

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Well, that definitely shows why they are analysts and "experts" and not coaching or hiring coaches. What idiot wouldn't consider a coach losing to inferior opponents when making a hire. Do they want their program to get drug up and down the field by the SMU's of the world?

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refuses to give Herman credit for the 1st 2 years at Houston because they werent his players.

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I give Hermson credit for his wins. Unfortunately, I also give him credit for Houston's incredible losses. I also have to consider the fact that he had a great first season. Played four ranked teams and only had one loss. The second season he played two ranked teams and lost three games to three teams he was favored to beat.

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and not coaching or hiring coaches

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there is not a single person that has the power to hire a division 1 head football coach that would hire Ed Orgeron over Tom Herman INCLUDING Joe Alleva. NOT ONE.

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What idiot wouldn't consider a coach losing to inferior opponents when making a hire

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That you are asking this questions proves you really have no idea what you are talking about or you are just a troll, there are no other options, I know i personally have explained it to probably close to a dozen times and so have others. But I'll try one more time. NO ONE HIRES A COACH BASED ON ONE AND ONLY ONE CRITERIA. The guy's ENTIRE RESUME and WEIGH each thing, which includes, wins, loses, relevant circumstances, what he did before becoming a HC stuff that is apparently well beyond your level of understanding.

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Do they want their program to get drug up and down the field by the SMU's of the world?

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i mean, this says it all if you think that 1 loss to a bad team defines a coaches career. Pete Carroll lost to a 40 point underdog with not just a more talented team, but the #1 TEAM IN THE NATION.

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What point exactly do you think I am arguing? You think a 6th place finish in the AAC - not the ACC - but the AAC qualifies a coach to lead the LSU program?

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What i think is that an entire resume needs to be looked at, you think you should cherry pick points that to reach the conclusion you want

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What i think is that an entire resume needs to be looked at, you think you should cherry pick points that to reach the conclusion you want

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Well go start a thread about how great Hermaggedon did in his first year at Houston and how that alone should qualify him to be the HC at LSU. Don't mention his record over the last 7 games if you don't want, I won't even care.

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Well go start a thread about how great Hermaggedon did in his first year at Houston and how that alone should qualify him to be the HC at LSU. Don't mention his record over the last 7 games if you don't want, I won't even care.

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yet more proof you do not understand what you are talking about or what we are saying. Let me highlight the important point I was making:

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What i think is that an ENTIRE resume needs to be looked at

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just to be clear, I would never start such a thread, because I don't cherry pick, I look at the entire record.

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I give Hermson credit for his wins. Unfortunately, I also give him credit for Houston's incredible losses. I also have to consider the fact that he had a great first season. Played four ranked teams and only had one loss. The second season he played two ranked teams and lost three games to three teams he was favored to beat.

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Uh no you didnt . You dismissed his 1st 2 seasons because they werent his players and tout Orgeron's interim success.

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let's say your current coach is the most successful ever at your school. He had a real good first year and beyond. He has frustrated the fanbase and administration with his antiquated approach. Do you never consider firing him because he won a NC three years after becoming coach?

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wow, I'm actually shocked, this is decent question. However, to answer I have to use another concept that eludes you since you focus only on short term specific criteria.

You have to judge a coach based on ENTIRE resume, but it is also constantly evolving. You also have to have some understanding of context, which you do not as evidenced by saying 6th in the AAC, that;s utterly meaningless with out context) In the case of Miles, the program has been trending poorly since 2008, minus the 2010-2011 seasons. The last 3 years plus this season he was 15-11 in the SEC. He was also in year 12, that's a long time and after that amount of time, you can see the overall direction.

Every coach will have ups and downs, no one season or string of games will be the same and you have to use context.

As I've also explained you repeatedly, Herman's biggest negative is his lack of experience, you can not determine any pattern, his record is too short. so looking at just the last 7 games or worse some meaningless ranking misses the big picture, that is the key point you fail to grasp.