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re: THANK GOD, LSU didn't hire Tom Herman
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:24 pm to Tiger Ree
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:24 pm to Tiger Ree
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Alleva at the Herman hire press conference: "I know everyone wants a winner at LSU and that is why we are letting CEO - who went 5-2 in his last 7 games with one of the losses being to the #1 ranked team in the country by 10 points - go on to other things. We are doing this so we can hire a "GREAT" coach who went 4-3 in his last 7 games while losing to three teams he was favored to beat. One team who finished with 3 wins and was favored to lose by over 22 points. We feel we have made the best decision for LSU at this time
So you really believe a career dline coach that has never ran a successful offense, defense or program is a better hire than someone that has ran a successful program and ran a successful offense? If so youre the reason we will never reach Bama's level of success.
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Hiring Saban was nothing like what hiring Hermster would have been.
No shite. Saban won 7 games just once.
Its laughable that you blast herman for losing to lesser teams whole not understanding THAT THE BEST COACH IN CFB LOSES TO A LESSER TEAM EVERY YEAR.
By all means continue to be ignorant.
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Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:26 pm to Goldrush25
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No matter what evidence you present he will insist that it doesn't prove how much of a trainwreck Orgeron is and that Herman is a better coach
First off, since you are comprehensively impaired. This thread is not about the current LSU head coach.
Secondly, Herman being a better coach is your opinion. After losing to three inferior teams that he was favored to beat - one by 22 points - in his last 7 games, I would have taken just about anyone over Hermster.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:29 pm to Tiger Ree
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Alleva at the Herman hire press conference: "I know everyone wants a winner at LSU and that is why we are letting CEO - who went 5-2 in his last 7 games with one of the losses being to the #1 ranked team in the country by 10 points - go on to other things. We are doing this so we can hire a "GREAT" coach who went 4-3 in his last 7 games while losing to three teams he was favored to beat. One team who finished with 3 wins and was favored to lose by over 22 points. We feel we have made the best decision for LSU at this time."
Why the focus on his last 7 games instead of his entire body of work? Is there something magical about 7 games? He was 18-1 before that. Why doesn't that 18-1 require equal consideration? Are you claiming he forgot how to coach?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:29 pm to Tiger Ree
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The guy finished 6th in the American Conference with the most talented team. I'm not making this shite up or fudging numbers. It his a cold, hard fact.
Nick saban lot to ulm and uab with sec talent. I guess he sucks ball and isnt a good coach.
Youre sitting here trying to act like a career dlineman coach is somehow a better hire than a guy that has ran a successful offense and program everywhere he has been.
Please explaim how Herman isnt a good hire but a guy that won 3 conf games in the 3 years,which is HIS ONLY TIME RUNNING A PROGRAM, is a good hire?
Ed orgeron HAS NEVER beaten a team he shouldn't while as head coach or interim. Not one time. But he has lost to teams he shouldnt. The same thing youre knocking herman for.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:30 pm to Tiger Ree
Give it up .. just ignore him .. he goes in circles using the same weak arse arguments. He would push this thread to 900 pages using the same 3 lines .. cannot wait to prove this terd wrong .. got the thread bookmarked.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:30 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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someone that has ran a successful program and ran a successful offense?
He ran a program that was entirely built by the former staff.
Successful offense? 303 total yards in a 38-16 loss to SMU? 296 yards in a win against Tulane.
The TE's coach running the offense at LSU would be embarrassed by those piddly fricking numbers on offense.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:31 pm to Macavity92
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Why the focus on his last 7 games instead of his entire body of work? Is there something magical about 7 games? He was 18-1 before that. Why doesn't that 18-1 require equal consideration? Are you claiming he forgot how to coach?
Because that doesnt support his claim that a career dline coach is somehow a better hire than a guy that is coveted by big time programs.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:33 pm to sheek
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Give up .. just ignore him .. he goes in circles and uses the same arguments. He would push this thread to 900 pages using the same 3 lines .. cannot wait to prove this terd wrong .. got the thread bookmarked.
you forgot to add calling herman other names like hermster, hermguy, etc.
this guy posts like he is 12 years old. although he is probably some 55 year old who is so set in his ways and beliefs that you will never change his mind. bottom line the guy is a retard
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:37 pm to Tiger Ree
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Successful offense? 303 total yards in a 38-16 loss to SMU? 296 yards in a win against Tulane.
Most people consider 38 points a game and 456 yards a game over a season a successful offense. I will save you the time --- O averaged 27. And, SMU has a higher ranked defense than Ole Miss and Missouri. The only team O played with a defense ranked above 80 was Southern Miss.
Houston team stats
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:38 pm to Macavity92
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Why the focus on his last 7 games instead of his entire body of work? Is there something magical about 7 games? He was 18-1 before that. Why doesn't that 18-1 require equal consideration? Are you claiming he forgot how to coach?
Why focus on another coaches previous body of work (10 years ago) instead of his last 15 (recent)?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:39 pm to Macavity92
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Why the focus on his last 7 games instead of his entire body of work?
It helps form his narrative.
A month ago, he was making fun of people who wanted Jimbo because he was "9-6 in his last 15 games". Now he claims he would've preferred Jimbo over O.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:41 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Its laughable that you blast herman for losing to lesser teams whole not understanding THAT THE BEST COACH IN CFB LOSES TO A LESSER TEAM EVERY YEAR.
Even though you deny it you use every post to try to compare Hermster to Nick Saban.
Okay, facts laid out for you:
In 2013 Bama lost to #4 Auburn on a 109 yard missed FG return and Oklahoma in the playoffs.
In 2014 Bama lost to #11 Ole Miss on the road by six points and to #4 Ohio State in the playoffs.
In 2015 Bama lost to #15 Ole Miss by six points and won the national championship with one loss.
In 2016 Alabama is undefeated this year - NO LOSSES.
In comparison Houston lost to three teams they were favored to beat in the last 7 games alone. That is three lesser opponents in half of a season. Not one lesser team every year.
Herman is 4-3 in last 7 games with a 6th place finish in the AAC. No way you can make that compare to what Nick Saban has accomplished in the last few years.
To be a fair comparison since Hermdude has only been a HC two years you would have to compare Nick's national championship season last year and his undefeated season this year to Hermbob's 4 losses to inferior teams.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:41 pm to Tiger Ree
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Secondly, Herman being a better coach is your opinion. After losing to three inferior teams that he was favored to beat - one by 22 points - in his last 7 games, I would have taken just about anyone over Hermster.
I'm pretty sure you're an O supporter. That is the impetus behind your ridiculous reasoning.
I would never jump to conclusions over a small sample size in a game as probabilistic as football. When you judge the entirety of their careers the superior coach is obvious.
But since you're an O supporter it makes perfect sense to cherry pick. That's the only way you can make a case for him. You put great stock into what he did as an interim coach, the same way you put great stock into a small sample size to discredit Herman.
Someone like you, with your ridiculous reasoning, would flip a coin 10 times and if it landed on heads 8 times, you'd actually argue that a coin flip is 80% likely to turn up heads.
This post was edited on 11/30/16 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:43 pm to LSU Patrick
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Why focus on another coaches previous body of work (10 years ago) instead of his last 15 (recent)?
Because it was the only example of what happens when he has top to bottom control of the program --- decides the philosophy, hires the assistants, etc. At LSU and USC he was tweaking programs others had set up. There is a huge difference between running a program successfully for years and just trying to motivate the players to finish the season strong.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:44 pm to Macavity92
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Why the focus on his last 7 games instead of his entire body of work? Is there something magical about 7 games? He was 18-1 before that. Why doesn't that 18-1 require equal consideration? Are you claiming he forgot how to coach?
No, showing that he he is obviously getting worse as time goes on. He was coaching another coach's players in entirety his first year. His second year at one time his team was the #6 ranked team in the country with a shot at the playoffs. He totally shite the bed and still is with his lost to Memphis.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:51 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Youre sitting here trying to act like a career dlineman coach is somehow a better hire
Not at all. I'm just pointing out that I am glad LSU didn't hire a guy who was great enough to finish in 6th place in the American conference. I don't know how many times I have to say this to the idiot Herman fans before it sinks in.
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Nick saban lot to ulm and uab with sec talent. I guess he sucks ball and isnt a good coach.
Oh, but you're not going to compare Tom Herman to Nick Saban, huh? Enough with the Nick Saban shite. Tom Herman is no fricking Nick Saban.
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Please explaim how Herman isnt a good hire
Have you not read one fricking post I have made in this entire god-damn thread? frick, this is why people still think LSU should have hired Herman - they are fricking idiots and you are living proof of that.
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Ed orgeron HAS NEVER beaten a team he shouldn't while as head coach or interim
Well, good for Ed Orgeron. What does this have to do with the guy who finished in 6th place in the American conference?
Posted on 11/30/16 at 12:53 pm to sheek
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he goes in circles using the same weak arse arguments
Weak arse arguments or fact? Want to counter anything I have posted about Herman? As unbelievable as it may seem to the Hermanettes, I am not making this shite up. It is his actual record in his time at Houston.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:01 pm to Tiger Ree
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He ran a program that was entirely built by the former staff.
Its amazing you dont see your own hypocrisy.
You give ed orgeron credit for interim coaching yet try to diminish Herman actually running the program.
I tried to let you reach this conclusion yourself but you couldnt.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:06 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You give ed orgeron credit for interim coaching yet try to diminish Herman actually running the program.
I tried to let you reach this conclusion yourself but you couldnt.
Not giving CEO credit for anything. If you assume that, I can only conclude that it is because I may have used CEO's two losses in his last 7 games with one being to the #1 ranked team in the country to compare to Herman's three losses in his last 7 games with all coming against teams he was favored to win. Games in which he held a significant talent advantage.
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try to diminish Herman actually running the program
Not trying to do anything. Hermley did it all by his lonesome.
Posted on 11/30/16 at 1:09 pm to Tiger Ree
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Not giving CEO credit for anything. If you assume that, I can only conclude that it is because I may have used CEO's two losses in his last 7 games with one being to the #1 ranked team in the country to compare to Herman's three losses in his last 7 games with all coming against teams he was favored to win. Games in which he held a significant talent advantage.
bullshite. Youve touted how the team looked under Orgeron in his interim tenures yet wont give Herman that same credit when was the actual head coach. Youre stupid and your hypocrisy has been uncovered.
Congrats on thinking a career dline coach is a better hire than Tom Herman. This site has been the birthplace of a bunch of ignorant shite,but you have carved out a place all your own.
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