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re: Speculation on the UT job.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:27 am to tigabait01
Posted on 11/4/08 at 12:27 am to tigabait01
My money is on either IMHO or IMO but I don't know either one. I know IMUS in the Morning though
Posted on 11/4/08 at 5:29 am to JEAUXBLEAUX
What about Mike Leach???
Posted on 11/4/08 at 6:36 am to theone
So what do you guys honestly think? Here's the way I believe the situation breaks down for the UT gig:
Positives:
1) University has resources and facilities to compete.
Negatives:
1) Unrealistic fan base that chased their coach of 17 years away 1 year removed from getting to a SEC championship game that nobody thought they would get to. For christ sakes they aren't even selling out anymore.
2) Have to pull in a lot of out of state talent to compete.
3) Have to be in a the same division with Florida and Georgia and will likely be 3rd most years.
4) Competing for 3rd in the division year in and year out with South Carolina and Steve Spurrier, one of the games greatest coaches.
5) Have to play Alabama every year which is on the rise. Likely to lose 2 games a year between Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina.
6) Need to schedule strong OOC opponent every year to get recruits.
Now, let's compare that to Clemson:
1) Roughly equal on facilities
2) Weaker conference. Only real great coach is Butch Davis with bowden on the decline.
3) Have a good chance to win every game on the schedule.
Or to Washington:
1) Facilities not as good, but in a beautiful campus in Seattle - no true talented program in the conference except for USC and could easily start to build a better recruiting base.
2) Weak competition in a BCS conference. Only real challenge every year is USC.
Or to Syracuse:
1) Not bad recruiting base, all the good recruits from NY state are going to the likes of Wisconsin (PJ Hill), Michigan, USC (Vidal Hazelton), Penn State, and Notre Dame.
2) Awful stadium
3) Good chance to win every game with a good recruiting class.
I don't know why anyone in their right mind would go to UT right now. At the very best you are can go 11-2, and that isn't even good enough for the fan base.
Positives:
1) University has resources and facilities to compete.
Negatives:
1) Unrealistic fan base that chased their coach of 17 years away 1 year removed from getting to a SEC championship game that nobody thought they would get to. For christ sakes they aren't even selling out anymore.
2) Have to pull in a lot of out of state talent to compete.
3) Have to be in a the same division with Florida and Georgia and will likely be 3rd most years.
4) Competing for 3rd in the division year in and year out with South Carolina and Steve Spurrier, one of the games greatest coaches.
5) Have to play Alabama every year which is on the rise. Likely to lose 2 games a year between Alabama, Florida, Georgia, and South Carolina.
6) Need to schedule strong OOC opponent every year to get recruits.
Now, let's compare that to Clemson:
1) Roughly equal on facilities
2) Weaker conference. Only real great coach is Butch Davis with bowden on the decline.
3) Have a good chance to win every game on the schedule.
Or to Washington:
1) Facilities not as good, but in a beautiful campus in Seattle - no true talented program in the conference except for USC and could easily start to build a better recruiting base.
2) Weak competition in a BCS conference. Only real challenge every year is USC.
Or to Syracuse:
1) Not bad recruiting base, all the good recruits from NY state are going to the likes of Wisconsin (PJ Hill), Michigan, USC (Vidal Hazelton), Penn State, and Notre Dame.
2) Awful stadium
3) Good chance to win every game with a good recruiting class.
I don't know why anyone in their right mind would go to UT right now. At the very best you are can go 11-2, and that isn't even good enough for the fan base.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:06 am to ironsides
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3) Have to be in a the same division with Florida and Georgia and will likely be 3rd most years.
I'm not sure they have to concede 1st and 2nd place in the East every year.
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at the very best you are can go 11-2
if you can go 11-2, you can go 11-1. And Tennesee is the only undefeated BCS champion in SEC history. That is a very, very good job. A top 10 job. But with the current state of the SEC, it will certainly be tougher than it was 10 years ago.
Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:35 am to ironsides
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1) Unrealistic fan base that chased their coach of 17 years away 1 year removed from getting to a SEC championship game that nobody thought they would get to. For christ sakes they aren't even selling out anymore
Sounds like LSU basketball fans!
Posted on 11/4/08 at 8:50 am to tigerzeye
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I'm not sure they have to concede 1st and 2nd place in the East every year.
biggest reason is talent
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And Tennesee is the only undefeated BCS champion in SEC history
when they were truly a national program who routinely plucked kids away from Cali and other recruiting areas that are now more locked up. they have talent, but not that elite talent
UT used to be siiiiick in talent. multiple 1st day picks (including usually multiple 1st round guys) year after year
Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:03 am to SlowFlowPro
Rival Recruiting Team ranking
2009 #8
2008 Out of top 25
2007 #3
2006 #23
2005 #4
2009 #8
2008 Out of top 25
2007 #3
2006 #23
2005 #4
Posted on 11/4/08 at 9:05 am to SlowFlowPro
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SlowFlowPro
we don't disagree. The job is not as great as it was 10 years ago. But it's still very good relatively. I do think they probably need a young, energetic, charasmatic guy who can recruit nationally.
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