Southern University hires Terrence Graves as new H.C.

Posted by Shaft Williams

Central City, LA

Member since Jul 2010

9419 posts

Posted on 12/12/23 at 4:19 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger

They couldn't pull an external guy because the AD should already be out of a job and SU won't give a guy enough time to build anything. Grambling is in the same boat.

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Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger

Bat'n Rudge

Member since Oct 2004

57166 posts

Posted on 12/12/23 at 4:23 pm to Shaft Williams

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They couldn't pull an external guy because the AD should already be out of a job and SU won't give a guy enough time to build anything. Grambling is in the same boat.

I wonder why Odums left. He seemed to have had them moving in the right direction. SU hasn't done squat since Pete Richardson retired.

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Posted by Kocin

Pearland Texas

Member since Feb 2017

625 posts

Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:00 pm to Shaft Williams

I agree on Grambling!! They had one of the youngest teams in the SWAC! At that level of Football you have to give it time and support!! Southern hay days was when they got a lot of local plays and LSU transfers

Posted by Shaft Williams

Central City, LA

Member since Jul 2010

9419 posts

Posted on 12/13/23 at 10:50 am to Tchefuncte Tiger

Odums left because SU wouldn't commit to him. I believe he wanted a 4-5 year contract and SU would only offer him 3 years. I think that's how it went down.

Posted by sugar71

NOLA

Member since Jun 2012

9967 posts

Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:22 pm to Shaft Williams

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They couldn't pull an external guy because the AD should already be out of a job and SU won't give a guy enough time to build anything. Grambling is in the same boat.

I somewhat agree on Grambling, but Dooley was just a bad hire at SU. He was a bad HC plus he was arrogant & stubborn. His mis-handling of Bubba McDaniel ( QB) last year was nearly unforgivable.

Posted by sugar71

NOLA

Member since Jun 2012

9967 posts

Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:39 pm to Kocin

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I agree on Grambling!! They had one of the youngest teams in the SWAC! At that level of Football you have to give it time and support!

Somewhat agree & Hue Jackson is actually a damn good offensive mind/ QB coach & Grambling's offense was fairly good & growing. But they were young & very undisciplined ( Grambling ranked 122nd of 122 FCS schools in penalties per game/ penalty yards & penalty yards per game). Many put it on Hue instead of youth.

Posted by SPEEDY

2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year

Member since Dec 2003

83357 posts

Posted on 12/13/23 at 12:56 pm to Shaft Williams

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Odums left because SU wouldn't commit to him. I believe he wanted a 4-5 year contract and SU would only offer him 3 years. I think that's how it went down.

Looking at his record since he left, he probably should have stayed

Posted by saintsfan22

baton rouge

Member since May 2006

71554 posts

Posted on 12/13/23 at 2:31 pm to SPEEDY

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Looking at his record since he left, he probably should have stayed

Nah he would've gotten fired the next season because that was when Deion starting getting it rolling at Jackson St. A coach that's already not beloved wasn't surviving that.

Posted by A75CADDY

BatonRouge, LA

Member since Nov 2010

312 posts

Posted on 12/13/23 at 5:41 pm to Tchefuncte Tiger

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I wonder why Odums left. He seemed to have had them moving in the right direction. SU hasn't done squat since Pete Richardson retired.

Odoms left to go back home to North Carolina where he is from. He was not the guy for Southern. He coached in the mold of Les Miles, very risk averse on offense and good defense. That approach will get you 8 wins a season, but will never win championships.