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Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:10 pm
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:10 pm
The whole facility/monetary landscape changed at LSU when Saban was hired. We finally committed monetarily to the program like we should have for years prior to that. He and Emmert were on the same page about this. In fact, Emmert left because of the lack of support the state of LA (trying not to get political here) showed on the academic side and the Flagship Agenda.

Anyways, my point is that a lot is made that Miles is a great recruiter and that is a major concern if he leaves. LSU has never really seen what another coach (besides Miles) could do with the major force LSU is now. We now have the facilities, exposure, & program that are on par with Florida, Alabama, Texas, Ohio State, etc. There is a reason the national pundits call this a top 10 job. It's still the only state that is talent rich, with only one major university in it. I don't care who the coach is, the die-hard in state kids are still going to come now that the program is where it is.

So don't assume, oh Pelini, Patterson, Mullen or whomever can't recruit at LSU. There's no doubt Miles' is good at it, but the state of the program is in a whole different league.

I start to get excited about new blood in BR.

Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:12 pm to
Agreed, but you'll have a difficult time convincing the old fans that we're not stuck in mediocrity
anymore and that this is an elite job.

They believe it's all one big damn dream we're living in, and we should be content to live with Miles' insanity because we're not going to attract any candidate worth three cents.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:15 pm to
Quality post
Posted by pdxlsufan
Beaverton, Oregon
Member since May 2008
3226 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:16 pm to
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In fact, Emmert left LSU because he grew up near Seattle, is a UW alumnus and being the Chancellor of UW was his dream job.


FIFY.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:17 pm to
Speaking of insanity, do you think that the LSU facilities, recruiting areas and fan support are greater than Florida's?
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:18 pm to
quote:

I don't care who the coach is, the die-hard in state kids are still going to come now that the program is where it is.


What of the out of state kids?
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33819 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:18 pm to
pretty shocked at the number of people who think it will be hard to replace what lord miles brings to the table.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:20 pm to
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pretty shocked at the number of people who think the big coaching names in college football will abandon their current positions to come to BR.


FIFY
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

They believe it's all one big damn dream we're living in, and we should be content to live with Miles' insanity because we're not going to attract any candidate worth three cents.


That's a great point. I hear constant arguments on how we're going to slip back in to the Hallman era if Miles' leaves. People really need to understand that the program is now run correctly from a business perspective.
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

What of the out of state kids?


Those will still come as well. LSU now has national appeal.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:22 pm to
quote:

That's a great point. I hear constant arguments on how we're going to slip back in to the Hallman era if Miles' leaves. People really need to understand that the program is now run correctly from a business perspective.


The wrong hire will have its effect. Ask Michigan. Ask Miami.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33819 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

pretty shocked at the number of people who think the big coaching names in college football will abandon their current positions to come to BR.


FIFY


we don't have to bring in a big name to recover from losing miles.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

Those will still come as well. LSU now has national appeal.


Why would they come if the coaching is suspect? Why choose LSU over Alabama, Texas, Florida?
If there is uncertainty in the coaching hire, should Miles leave, what will attract them? Boiled crawfish?
Posted by SanFranTiger
Santa Fe, NM
Member since Sep 2003
5049 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:25 pm to
You can have the greatest facilities on the planet and all the money and titties that the NCAA allows, but if you don't have a good coach, you don't have much.

Athletes don't coach, recruit, or motivate themselves.

Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

The wrong hire will have its effect. Ask Michigan. Ask Miami.


Once again. Different programs. How many times have you heard how crappy the facilities are in Miami? If you haven't, then you're not paying attention. They let the times get ahead of them and they haven't caught up. They are also in a state that has a ton of competition. Michigan. Very similar to Notre Dame in the fact that now everyone is on television. This does matter.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:27 pm to
quote:

we don't have to bring in a big name to recover from losing miles.


So you beleive that LSU would attract the same quality of athlete if they were to hire Bob Toledo?
Please be real.
Posted by conman
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Nov 2007
3531 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:31 pm to
Thankyou Nick Saban for awakening the Sleeping Giant!!!
Posted by Angry LLAMA
the energy capital of the world
Member since Mar 2009
2731 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:32 pm to
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Gray Tiger
dude- you are completely insufferable. go kill yourself now b/c something bad may happen in the future:omg:
Posted by jackson123
Dallas
Member since Jul 2010
1550 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:32 pm to
Once again, is Bob Toledo able to pay $500K for defensive coordinator and hire the likes of Bo Pelini and or John Chavis? It's really not that hard when you have money to play with. Miles figured that out with the the co-dc disaster.
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9875 posts
Posted on 1/6/11 at 5:33 pm to
You should be banned. Reasoning is not allowed on the rant.
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