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re: Someone sell me on Herman.

Posted on 10/9/16 at 9:53 am to
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
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Posted on 10/9/16 at 9:53 am to
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PHOENIX -- If Alabama does a better job slowing down Clemson's fast-paced, high-scoring offense in Monday night's College Football Playoff National Championship Presented by AT&T, the Crimson Tide can thank Houston coach Tom Herman for his help.

A year ago, then-No. 1 Alabama's defense was shredded by eventual national champion Ohio State's high-tempo offense in a 42-35 loss in the College Football Playoff semifinals at the Allstate Sugar Bowl. With Herman directing OSU's offense, the Buckeyes piled up 537 total yards in quarterback Cardale Jones' second career start.

The Buckeyes then routed Oregon 42-20 in the inaugural College Football Playoff National Championship. A few days after the Buckeyes upset the Crimson Tide, Alabama defensive coordinator Kirby Smart called Herman and talked to him for about two hours. Smart asked Herman how the Buckeyes were able to move the ball so effectively and what tendencies and deficiencies he noticed while scouting the Crimson Tide on film. Smart asked Herman what the Alabama defense might do in the future to become more adept at defending fast-tempo offenses.
"That's what you do as coaches," Smart said. "If you can't look at yourself in the mirror and say, 'I got my butt beat,' you're not going to get better."




Shortly after Herman was named Houston's coach, Alabama coach Nick Saban invited him and a few of his assistants to Tuscaloosa, Alabama, to spend a day with the Crimson Tide's coaches. Herman told Saban and the others that the Buckeyes tried to play at a faster tempo at the start of the game to wear down Alabama's mammoth defensive linemen. The Buckeyes rarely huddled in the first half, as to not allow the Crimson Tide to substitute on defense. He said OSU also tried to get its offensive playmakers in space to make Alabama's linebackers and safeties run from sideline to sideline to make plays in the open field.

"He talked about going fast early to wear down our big guys," Smart said. "They were going sideline to sideline, throwing the bubble [screens] and wide screens to get people running sideline to sideline. At the end, they kind of stuck it in our hearts. They ran the ball down our throats at the end because we'd played so many snaps."



When Nick Saban consults you on how you torched their defense, you know you're good.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17328 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 10:08 am to
Dude just lost to Navy. Navy.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17328 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 10:08 am to
Ole Miss making a tradition out doing that for the last 3 years.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25696 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 10:44 am to
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Dude just lost to Navy. Navy.


Nick Saban lost to UL Monroe at Alabama. What's your point? And UL Monroe was worse than Navy. Does that make Saban a horrible coach? You think Herman's LSU defense with Aranda would give up 40+ to Navy? GTFO of here dude.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481217 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 11:03 am to
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Dude just lost to Navy. Navy.

Navy is one of those teams, esp in the middle of the year and against non-super elite talent, that can really frick with you. that offense can get you if it's on point, which it was yesterday

pretty sure some average GT teams (running almost the same offense) put it on UGA a few times

hell i think GA Southern fricked with Bama a few years ago in the middle of the year
Posted by sunnydaze
Member since Jan 2010
33014 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 11:33 am to
jimbo is still m #1 and the safest pick to me. You know what you're getting in him.

What makes herman any different from sumlin?
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25696 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 12:05 pm to
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#1 and the safest pick to me. You know what you're getting in him. What makes herman any different from sumlin?


Look, the point everyone is missing is that with either Jimbo or Herman we are a more complete team. If you trade LSU's defense with A&M's defense the last few years they would have had much much better years. The whole point in going out and getting a Herman or a Jimbo is to have an offense that is just as formidable as our defense. You people are WAYYY overthinking things. The most important thing we can do is Lock Aranda up and keep him after this year. It's probably more important to keep him than any other coach we are going to get because it doesn't really matter if we get an offensive minded coach if we lose a D.C. of his caliber.
This post was edited on 10/9/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3520 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 5:08 pm to
You are spot on! If you read the campus rush article in sports illustrated that Herman wrote it sounds like a young Nick Saban. Everything I read about him I like. I have no way of convincing anyone that he is the magic bullet for our tigers but I get excited thinking he will be able to split games with Saban. I believe that is the best we can realistically hope for with the tide. That would be something that no other team in the nation can pull off. We can do it with Herman in my humble opinion. Once we pull that off in a few years Saban will be ready to hang it up.
Posted by Tiger in Texas
Houston, Texas
Member since Sep 2004
22262 posts
Posted on 10/9/16 at 5:26 pm to
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Or Harbaugh?


Whoa...you can't put him in with Meyer & Saban!! Exactly what has Harbaugh won?? Beat up some cup cakes, so what???
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