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re: Reading between lines (re: Aranda): Baker going to FSU?
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:36 pm to tke_swamprat
Posted on 11/5/26 at 9:36 pm to tke_swamprat
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I'm not saying that he will leave, but that should be their number 1 target over Baker or any other coordinator.
Days of FSU getting their #1 target are over.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:22 am to Alt26
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At the moment, FSU is the top job available. It's hard to see them settling for a coordinator.
There's plenty of things with that job that will make head coaches pause. They don't even have an AD yet. If that remains true much longer, a prospective head coach is going to be asking whoever they are negotiating with how does he know he will have their backing. At many schools, the AD can live or die by the football program. If they hire one afterwards, it isn't out of the question that he will be quick to make a change so he can get his hire in.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 7:55 am to ApisMellifera
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There's plenty of things with that job that will make head coaches pause. They don't even have an AD yet. If that remains true much longer, a prospective head coach is going to be asking whoever they are negotiating with how does he know he will have their backing. At many schools, the AD can live or die by the football program. If they hire one afterwards, it isn't out of the question that he will be quick to make a change so he can get his hire in.
That all could be fixed very quickly. Last year at this time LSU had just named a new president, fired its AD, and wasn't totally sure who its permanent AD would be. They were able to land Kiffin in the end.
Coaches want opportunity and money over everything. They know the business is volatile and they could be fired very quickly. That doesn't really scare them away anymore. FSU is not what it was 15-30 years ago, but there is more opportunity there than any job open now and maybe most that will become open later. In the ACC a team doesn't have to be great to compete for the conf. championship. Just good. And with a 24 team CFP coming, good is enough to make the CFP.
It's possible FSU ultimately ends up with Baker, but I'd be really shocked if he were their primary target. (1) He's been good, but not great as a DC. While LSU fans might think he is the bee's knees I don't think the rest of the country shares that level of enthusiasm (2) when teams/programs hire the "young up and coming coordinator" it is usually an offensive coordinator.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 9:27 am to Yaboylsu63
FSU would more likely go after Weis
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:05 am to Yaboylsu63
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Reading between lines (re: Aranda): Baker going to FSU?
I think you are half right.
You get Aranda in because you know Baker is a possibility to leave and Aranda, if Kiffin gets to know him and like him, is a potential replacement.
I don't know if this has anything to do with FSU. It's a real possibility even if FSU isn't a real possibility.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:33 am to Alt26
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That all could be fixed very quickly. Last year at this time LSU had just named a new president, fired its AD, and wasn't totally sure who its permanent AD would be. They were able to land Kiffin in the end.
Eh, Verge went from interim to permanent AD within a week of Woodward's firing. FSU fired their AD two months ago and waited until this week to fire Norvell. It's not exactly an apples to apples comparison.
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Coaches want opportunity and money over everything.
Sure, but given FSU's reported financial issues, and the fact they decided to pull the trigger on Norvell's buyout, it remains to be seen how much they will/can invest in a new staff and NIL.
I'm not necessarily saying their situation will scare away potential candidates, but it could limit what they offer.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 10:44 am to Alt26
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At the moment, FSU is the top job available.
I disagree. FSU seems to lack financial commitment from boosters. FSU has sued the ACC to try to get out of their rights contract while trying to leave the conference. They have the worst TV deal and low rev share.
FSU’s glory days are gone unless they can find the money not only for a coach and tremendous staff, but for NIL to get players.
My guess is they get one shot then they end up like Arkansas where no one is willing to pay to improve the team.
Posted on 11/6/26 at 1:00 pm to Milk
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I disagree. FSU seems to lack financial commitment from boosters. FSU has sued the ACC to try to get out of their rights contract while trying to leave the conference. They have the worst TV deal and low rev share.
FSU’s glory days are gone unless they can find the money not only for a coach and tremendous staff, but for NIL to get players.
I'd still choose FSU over Baylor, Maryland and NC State at the moment. Just because FSU hasn't won under Norvell the last two seasons doesn't mean it can't with the right guy. And sometimes the money comes after proven success, not before. Indiana did not load up the coffers THEN hire Cignetti. They had success in year 1 and the money followed. UCLA didn't suddenly dump a ton of money into the program then hire a new HC. But I suspect you will see an increase in funding after this year.. There are enough people surrounding FSU that wan to win. They just don't believe in Norvell.
Still, I'll go with the program that has shown it is capable of great success over others (Baylor, NC State, Maryland) who have never had that type of success. And suing to get out of the ACC shows FSU's desire to have a good athletic program. If they didn't, they would just be happy to stay in the ACC
Posted on 11/6/26 at 4:04 pm to Yaboylsu63
This is some next level cope but to be honest, they probably will settle for a guy like Baker. Is he on their list? I don't know.
I do know FSU is not getting someone like Stein or any established HC worth anything right now. So they're going to have to look at the coordinator level with a young possible.
No established coach who's doing good and has a decent NIL is going that way. It's a step back. They don't have the booster support and FSU is in a financial problem. Until NIL is sorted FSU is a graveyard job.
Would someone like Baker leave for that place? Probably. He'd either double or triple his salary. He'd be dumb not to.
I do know FSU is not getting someone like Stein or any established HC worth anything right now. So they're going to have to look at the coordinator level with a young possible.
No established coach who's doing good and has a decent NIL is going that way. It's a step back. They don't have the booster support and FSU is in a financial problem. Until NIL is sorted FSU is a graveyard job.
Would someone like Baker leave for that place? Probably. He'd either double or triple his salary. He'd be dumb not to.
This post was edited on 11/6/26 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 11/7/26 at 9:23 am to Milk
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At the moment, FSU is the top job available.
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I disagree. FSU seems to lack financial commitment from boosters. FSU has sued the ACC to try to get out of their rights contract while trying to leave the conference. They have the worst TV deal and low rev share
What do you think is the top job available at the moment?
Posted on 11/7/26 at 11:13 am to moneyg
If they don’t get their boosters and big donors together and create a plan for NIL and $$$ for HC and staff ,they will end up with their 5or 6th choice.Somebody just trying to land a nice payday.I still think JIMBO will get the job on the cheap.
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