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Posted by LSU5809
Member since Aug 2009
367 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:20 pm to
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So is this thing over or still have to battle with fsu?



FSU wouldn't let him walk without a fight, and if anyone suggests that they are retarded. It's clear both sides have leverage in their own right, but it's LSU that has leverage in overall resources.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10219 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:21 pm to
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there isn't a coach out there that will probably satisfy yo


Oh...there is one, but he now wears Crimson.
Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:21 pm to
Then again that scares me. They have four days to come up with their money and boosters.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:23 pm to
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So is this thing over or still have to battle with fsu?


FSU will offer more money and it won't be enough. What Jimbo really needs to reach his true potential is not within reason according to FSU.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3791 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:23 pm to
He recruited Wiston to FSU for Jimbo. Craig was his primary contact
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10219 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:24 pm to
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Then again that scares me. They have four days to come up with their money and boosters.


Finally some sanity. FSU is not letting Jimbo walk. They have deep pockets there just like LSU. Plus reality will set in as to where they go from Jimbo. Not to many elite coaches out there. Provided of course they consider him elite.

FSU has the upper hand. They will most likely get last look.

Posted by Duckie
Tippy Toe, Louisiana
Member since Apr 2010
24314 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:25 pm to
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FSU will offer more money and it won't be enough. What Jimbo really needs to reach his true potential is not within reason according to FSU.


We will see. They are going to have their come to Jesus meeting tonight and tomorrow.
Posted by bah humbug
Member since Nov 2011
1705 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:26 pm to
What is/was the sour part of the issue between Jimbo and Tommy?
Posted by LSU5809
Member since Aug 2009
367 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:27 pm to
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Finally some sanity. FSU is not letting Jimbo walk. They have deep pockets there just like LSU. Plus reality will set in as to where they go from Jimbo. Not to many elite coaches out there. Provided of course they consider him elite.

FSU has the upper hand. They will most likely get last look.


The argument here is whether or not FSU decides to break the bank to keep him, yet the narrative has always been FSU doesn't do enough to ensure his success by paying assistants. Leverage - LSU
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:30 pm to
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I'll be criticized but I would like to see Moffitt replaced. I want roided monsters that eat babies.



not by me. need a new face.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10219 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:30 pm to
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he argument here is whether or not FSU decides to break the bank to keep him,


Break the bank?!?! For an athletic program as large as FSU's and their alumni base I hardly think bumping a guy $1.5-$2m is an issue, provided they think he is an elite coach.

Hard to believe that any program would allow coach on his early 50's that has won a national championship just 3 yrs ago walk because of a coulple of million and / or because he wants more money for his assistants.

I'll believe Jimbo is our HC when I see him next to Alleva and he's wearing an LSU hat.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:31 pm to
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Covingtontiger77



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Provided of course they consider him elite.


This is the problem. They don't consider it and they don't want it considered.

How much much would you have to get paid in that situation? National title and all.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 8:34 pm
Posted by grove3
Bastrop-ATL-Houston
Member since Feb 2016
770 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:32 pm to
Yea I hope byte me lays off the alcohol tonight he gave me a lot of shite for sticking by LSUTigers last night.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Bengal26
Member since Oct 2014
1777 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:34 pm to
What I wanna know is, did we just offer Fisher the job? Or did he say he would take it at any point. I real all of the post from last night but and all I see is that he's coming. Does this mean he he accepted or we just assume he will?
Posted by LSU5809
Member since Aug 2009
367 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:36 pm to
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Break the bank?!?! For an athletic program as large as FSU's and their alumni base I hardly think bumping a guy $1.5-$2m is an issue, provided they think he is an elite coach.

Hard to believe that any program would allow coach on his early 50's that has won a national championship just 3 yrs ago walk because of a coulple of million and / or because he wants more money for his assistants.

I'll believe Jimbo is our HC when I see him next to Alleva and he's wearing an LSU hat.



I agree with you, sir. FSU won't let him bolt simply because he gets a raise, I brought this up in previous posts in this thread. My point being: the reports we have seen & coaches Jimbo has lost has been due to FSU's inability to pony up cash to fight to keep assistants in bidding wars. Throwing another $2m a year at Fisher further ties FSU's hands to, let's say, not have the ability to pay a DC $1.5m a year, like we do here in Baton Rouge.

Everything is relative.

EDIT: For perspective, Charles Kelly (FSU DC) received a 43.8% raise from his 2015 salary. Charles Kelly now makes $833k.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 8:40 pm
Posted by misey94
Hernando, MS
Member since Jan 2007
23327 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:37 pm to
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Hard to believe that any program would allow coach on his early 50's that has won a national championship just 3 yrs ago walk because of a coulple of million and / or because he wants more money for his assistants.


Well, sometimes program's get tired of coaches repeatedly coming back to the well, especially after a less successful season. Remember when Skip basically told Saban to frick off before he left for Miami. The money didn't matter in that case. Everyone knew he was leaving, but Skip put that parting shot out there because he was sick of Saban and Sexton hitting him up for more year after year.

I don't think that is the case at FSU, but it does happen. They are in a position where if they balk on anything, LSU will jump on it. And with Les supposedly taking another job, we will have more flexibility to go higher where Jimbo wants/needs us to. Do they want to go to the mattresses to keep him, or do they flinch at some point?
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10219 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:41 pm to
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This is the problem. They don't consider it and they don't want it considered. How much much would you have to get paid in that situation? National title and all. This post was edited on 11/22 at 8:34 pm


Not meant to flame.
So the argument is that FSU doesn't think their HC is elite and they show that by his low salary? Correct me if I'm wrong but he is top 5 -7 in the nation, right? So are you saying that there is something else besides the lack of commitment to assistant salaries that is making Jimbo feel less than appreciated by the FSU admins? I had not heard that if that the case, which is great for us if so.

For me to not feel snubbed or appreciated by my university with Jimbo's resume, I'd say they would have to make sure im within top 5 salary wise at least.
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 8:43 pm
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8726 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:43 pm to
Can he even sign anything until after the final regular season game?
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:44 pm to
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Break the bank?!?! For an athletic program as large as FSU's and their alumni base I hardly think bumping a guy $1.5-$2m is an issue, provided they think he is an elite coach.

Hard to believe that any program would allow coach on his early 50's that has won a national championship just 3 yrs ago walk because of a coulple of million and / or because he wants more money for his assistants.

I'll believe Jimbo is our HC when I see him next to Alleva and he's wearing an LSU hat.


While all of that is true if it was just an issue of money... which it is not. There is no secret Jimbo has an affinity to LSU and Louisiana.
Posted by D500MAG
Oklahoma
Member since Oct 2010
3736 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 8:46 pm to
Trying not to step on toes.
What LSU offered in money is part of a strategy. FSU won't flinch to match the money, but the money insures they flinch at something else. The something else is what Jimbo wants.
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