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Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:31 pm to
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f this happens, my family and I would like a full refund of all season ticket expenditures and TAF donations that we have made over the past 45 yrs or so!!!!!!!!



I think I would rather LSU dismantle the football team all together than to hire that prick!!!


Get over it. He's a great coach. I would let bygones be bygones to have him at LSU. The guy can recruit and coach.


Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:35 pm to
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what reasons do you have for being so against bringing a successful SEC HC here?


Do you consider 1 SEC championship in 9 years being successful? Well, I wonder what you will call 1 SEC championship in 3 years? I just we will see next week if all works out. (And I do acknowledge that "if" is a pretty big "IF".)

How many of Tubby's teams finished with 2 or fewer losses? The answer is 2 in 9 years.

How many of Les' teams finished with 2 or fewer losses? The answer is 2 in 2 full years.

Now I am not saying that Les is God's gift to LSU football. I am just saying that he isn't the Anti-Christ either.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:36 pm to
Sometimes you have to look further than wins and losses. Would you think that Larry Coker is a better coach than Tubberville, too?
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:37 pm to
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because you sure no how to take things out




I think you meant "know" instead of "no."


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Do you ever think about taking english classes again? Try not to sleep through it this time.




Maybe, you should also?




Ouch! I stand corrected!
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:40 pm to
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Sometimes you have to look further than wins and losses. Would you think that Larry Coker is a better coach than Tubberville, too?



Then what proof do you folks have that say he is such a successful coach? Recruiting?

He couldn't even put a top 10 recruiting class together while Alabama was on probation, and he couldn't keep JR from leaving the state.

So exactly what do you use as evidence that he is a great coach?
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:40 pm to
This post was edited on 11/26/07 at 12:41 pm
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9550 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:43 pm to
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Ouch! I stand corrected!


just breaking your balls...thought it was kinda funny.
Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:52 pm to
Chicot, these idiots seem to have forgotten that Tubberville got Croomed this year. He also lost to South Florida, played a very close game against Kansas State, lost to Georgia and lost to LSU.
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:52 pm to
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So exactly what do you use as evidence that he is a great coach?


First, he's had an undefeated season. Let's give him credit for that.

Second, he coaches at a school that shares a vast recruiting territory with Alabama, Tennessee, Georgia, Florida, and Florida State. The fact that he dips heavily into the nearby Atlanta metro area, southern Tennessee, and the panhandle speaks for itself in his recruiting efforts. Unlike Les Miles, Tubberville does not have a Houston, TX next door. The greater Houston area is like a half dozen Birminghams and a dozen Mobiles, and LSU only competes with two Texas schools for its players. I'd love to see what Tubberville could do with that.

Yes, he's won only one title. He's also been our major competitor over the last 8 years. Face it, Auburn is above Florida in the 21st century when it comes to thorn in our sides. They have been very tough. Tubby's biggest off year? Try 2001 and even then he competed for an SEC west title until the end, but was hampered by injuries to Carnell Williams and his offensive line.

If Miles does in fact go, he's the guy I want. I never thought I'd say that, either, but I am saying it now. He's the best coach in the western half of the SEC. Hands down.
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 12:57 pm to
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First, he's had an undefeated season


Strenght of schedule was ranked 60th in the nation that year. Not so impressive to me.
This post was edited on 11/26/07 at 12:58 pm
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:00 pm to
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The greater Houston area is like a half dozen Birminghams and a dozen Mobiles




Really? Glad to see that we are not being arbitrary here. How exactly did you quantify these things?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:01 pm to
Look up our SOS in '03 then. Mighty Western Illinois and Arizona probably didn't help ours much and ULM and Tech weren't top 25 teams, I am guessing, either...and we had one loss. During the regular season, Georgia was the ONLY top ten team we faced. Let's be objective here.

Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:03 pm to
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Really? Glad to see that we are not being arbitrary here. How exactly did you quantify these things?


Seriously, what proof do you need to not know that the Houston area is the reason we're doing so well, along with keeping in-state talent?

Houston is 4 hours from Rouge. Name me another SEC campus within comfortable driving distance...

Meanwhile, Atlanta and Birmingham are surrounded by 7 SEC members.

It's not that difficult of math there, Elmer.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
40122 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:05 pm to
we need Tubby to stay right where he is...to keep Saban in check
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:10 pm to
Bama will never be the Bama we once knew. Scholarship limitations and Bear Bryant's grave will prove this. Stallings had some great teams in the early and mid 90's. What has been so great about them since? It's as if we foresee a definite national title for Saban in 3 years...won't happen.

Auburn has been a better program over Alabama 15 of the last 20 years. Ray Perkins created the mediocrity and Bill Curry continued it. Stallings was a brilliant coach and he briefly resurrected things. Then, Dubose...then a drunk who was too stupid to not get caught...then Deer in the Headlights Bambi...now Saban. People say Tubby's done nothing?
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21647 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:12 pm to
There was a reason why Tubby was almost fired in the failed coup. He was performing poorly on the field, had some issues off it..he fired his coordinators on both sides of the ball for 3 straight years, and has only 1 SEC championship. You say not to judge him by wins and losses only, yet, Miles gets ripped for not winning one in his first TWO years. Give him 9 here and then we can judge.
Posted by sheek
New Albany, OH
Member since Sep 2007
44138 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:14 pm to
i think tubby's situation is very similar to saban's mich state, and if he an entire to himself with muschamp as dc and a stud oc, I think we would compete for championships every year.
Posted by Chicot
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Aug 2007
1279 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:20 pm to
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Seriously, what proof do you need to not know that the Houston area is the reason we're doing so well, along with keeping in-state talent?

Houston is 4 hours from Rouge. Name me another SEC campus within comfortable driving distance...

Meanwhile, Atlanta and Birmingham are surrounded by 7 SEC members.

It's not that difficult of math there, Elmer.


I am not saying that the Houston area is not one of the reasons that we are doing so well. But how to you come up with...

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The greater Houston area is like a half dozen Birminghams and a dozen Mobiles



That is the part I am asking you to clarify. You say that we only compete with 2 Texas schools for the athletes in Houston. Have you bothered to check how many of the Houston area folks are also being recruited to (and many times go to) Oklahoma, OSU, Arkansas, Kansas, etc. Quite a few of them are, so it is not correct to say that we only compete with 2 Texas schools.
Posted by LSUPERMAN
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
2978 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:27 pm to
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I don't have a problem bring a successful SEC HC here. As long as it is Mark Richt.


Why is everyone in love with Mark Richt? Is he more successful than TT?
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 11/26/07 at 1:28 pm to
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Have you bothered to check how many of the Houston area folks are also being recruited to (and many times go to) Oklahoma, OSU, Arkansas, Kansas, etc.


Yes.



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Quite a few of them are, so it is not correct to say that we only compete with 2 Texas schools.


4 and 5 stars don't go, in droves, to Kansas, OSU, and Arkansas, from the greater Houston area...or from any area for that matter.
This post was edited on 11/26/07 at 1:29 pm
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