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Orgeron's continued success is actually good for Miles' future prospects

Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:29 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:29 pm
Miles is the one who built this team. It's a plausible argument that they would have turned the corner regardless. Nobody here will accept that, but a search comittee will consider it. He can say he's learned from his mistakes, and lay out a plan to better utilize talent.

He's in a much better situation jobwise than if he had LSU in a shambles.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
Markey's bar
Member since Oct 2008
88509 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:37 pm to
Actually all it proves is that if Miles had just made a handful of common sense adjustments to the way he ran his program we'd be undefeated and he would still be the coach.
This post was edited on 11/4/16 at 4:44 pm
Posted by emanresu
Member since Dec 2009
9875 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:37 pm to
quote:

It's a plausible argument that they would have turned the corner regardless.

No it's not. The team has been stagnant for years. And see my sig quote about stubbornness to change.
This post was edited on 11/4/16 at 4:39 pm
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
56719 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:43 pm to
You mean.... O is winning with Miles' players?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
40038 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:51 pm to
quote:

Actually all it proves is that if Miles had just made a handful of common sense adjustments to the way he ran his program we'd be undefeated and he would still be the coach.



I mean the biggest adjustment we seem to have made is the fact that O has basically gotten out of the way of the coordinators.
Posted by 1999
Where I be
Member since Oct 2009
33785 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 4:57 pm to
It's actually a complete indictment to his coaching abilities
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
46979 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 5:07 pm to
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It's a plausible argument that they would have turned the corner regardless.


There have been offensive records set in the past three games

Les Miles has had more talented teams than this one over his 12 year tenure.. why didn't any of those teams turn the corner like this one has? There's only one common thread for those 12 years of teams.
Posted by castorinho
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/4/16 at 5:13 pm to
This is some backward logic
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 6:09 pm to
I don't see how. imo, it clearly proves that he's a damn good recruiter in Louisiana with the money to hire the best available recruiters and with as good of facilities as anywhere in the country.

it also proves that he failed to do anything with all those advantages for the last 4 or 5 years because he was terrible on the offensive side of the ball. what AD would take the chance of hiring the guy with that baggage? maybe a mid major or a historically bad team but not a power school where the AD could get canned quick if miles hires cam or whoever and then destroys their offense like he did at LSU.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5964 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 6:14 pm to
quote:

Miles is the one who built this team. It's a plausible argument that they would have turned the corner regardless. Nobody here will accept that, but a search comittee will consider it. He can say he's learned from his mistakes, and lay out a plan to better utilize talent.

He's in a much better situation jobwise than if he had LSU in a shambles.



I'll give you that he is in better shape than if we were in shambles, but if you don't think every coach in the country isn't laughing at him right now you're delusional.
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
24717 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:06 pm to
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O is winning with Miles' players?





Actually if it weren't for O, we probably wouldn't have Key, and O was the recruiting coordinator the past few years, soooooo, no not really.
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
5964 posts
Posted on 11/4/16 at 8:09 pm to
quote:

You mean.... O is winning with Miles' players?



No I mean Miles was losing with Miles' players.
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