re: OFFICIAL: Jimbo Fisher has resigned from FSU and accepted the Texas A&M job

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Based on your very own admission, orgeron cannot be considered a better hire than fishe

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He will never be the better hire as of December 2016

But if he performs better than Jimbo from 2017-the future, he absolutely was a better hire in practice.

That is an objective common sense fact that seems to be riling people up

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You are arguing that even if O outcoaches jimbo in the future, you will still say he was not the better hire

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He's arguing that what you're arguing is extremely unlikely to happen.

look all things equal to "normalize" the variables yall should just agree to start comparing records next year since they are now playing in the same conference and division.

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holy frick

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Argue differently. You cant logically. You are just mad because the sample size is currently small. It will continue to grow

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its not really fair to pick and choose your sample sizes

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It isnt about whats fair or not fair.

As of right now, Jimbo has a far better career than O.

However, our job was open starting the 2017 season.

To judge the hire we made for the 2017 season, all I will look at in the future is how the coaches performed from 2017-whenever


I really dont think anyone would disagree, it is just rustling jimmies because people read too fast and think I am saying O should have been hire over Jimbo

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i suppose its fair to erase the past and begin comparing next year. same division, similar talent, etc

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I will begin in 2017 because that is the first season this hire was available to coach

I wasn't in favor of the O hire but I also wasn't in favor of giving Jimbo 10 years(the money is not important since we could easily pay it).

The argument of the hires of Orgeron and now fisher regarding records over their career, while justifiable , is not relevant now. If Is career record is the holdup and basis of the argument then I present to you Bill Belichek and Pete Carroll. I guess neither shouldve been hired by their current organizations because both had horrible records their 1st turn in the league

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The argument of the hires of Orgeron and now fisher regarding records over their career, while justifiable , is not relevant now. If Is career record is the holdup and basis of the argument then I present to you Bill Belichek and Pete Carroll. I guess neither shouldve been hired by their current organizations because both had horrible records their 1st turn in the league

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Yep. You can have a bad hire at the time, that turns out to be a great hire in practice(Dabo)

You can have a great hire at the time, that becomes a horrible hire in practice(rich rod)

The hire in practice though is judged only on how they do from time of hire forward.

"You make the hire based on the past, but you judge it only on the future"-Yoda

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I don't get all the O hate. He's about to win his 10th game in his first year. He made good mid season adjustments.

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Because "Troy, Troy, Troy...blah blah blah". There's only one thing you need to know: the people who still say O is terrible and sucks just want him to lose so they can feel justified in their perception of him.

I was 100% against the O hire. I'll admit it. I thought i was justified based on the first part of our schedule too. But after the first part of the season's debacle was over he fixed his errors and got LSU back on track nearly beating Bama and beating Auburn with a new offense, shaky o-line, and young defense. None of the people bitching about O will give him any credit for righting the ship though. They will just yell "Troy".

Will he keep up the 10 win seasons and better? Who knows, but for now he's doing well, and I am excited to see our team play next year.

To anyone who wants to say "well we have such hard teams to play next year it's a guaranteed 3 losses." I would kindly say frick off and stop crying about games that have yet to be played. If he we lose all the tough games next year then i will be bitching as well, but please stop crying before the milk is spilt.

So fricking what!!!!

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&m has their hands tied now. If it starts getting bad in year three theyre going to start looking quite silly.

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Good luck trying to get anyone to accept that logic on here. Apparently it doesn't matter if jimbo doesn't meet expectations. It has no impact on the university or program. That's the narrative being pushed here at least.

I find it hard to believe that if you pay that much for a coach who doesn't bring you better results than your previous one everything will be just peachy.