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Posted on 12/8/07 at 4:49 pm to FredSecunda
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And you mentioned something about the weather in Michigan -- it's 85 degrees today in Baton Rouge.
Damn, it's cold here...
Posted on 12/8/07 at 4:50 pm to TigerWoody
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One other thing, Carr did noone any favors by locking the coordinators into the equation. By doing so he has pretty much disabled any incoming coach from trying to establish his own relational chemistry from the helm. Most coaches have big egos and by what Carr has set up, the incoming HC will have to either reign his in or just bang heads with his Cs till they get some working agreements in place, if possible. This takes some of the energy needed to rebuild the program and puts it in unnecessary places.
I think Engish will find another job if they bring in a new HC soon.
Posted on 12/8/07 at 4:52 pm to MichiganMan
I read on another site he is apping at west carolina, or someplace like that.
Talking bout DaBORED
Talking bout DaBORED
Posted on 12/8/07 at 5:22 pm to The Egg
egg thats a conspiracy theory I also thought about today....
Posted on 12/8/07 at 5:46 pm to BilJ
Forget any conspiracy theories. People are way to ready to buy into elaborate, Machavellian conspiracies, when rarely do such theories prove to be true. Can you imagine how difficult it would be to keep such conspiracy quiet? The US government isn't that good. How would two or three or more athletic departments keep such a thing quiet? Seriously.
Can you imagine the fallout in Baton Rouge if Bertman was a participant in such an elaborate coverup. I know he is retiring, but I doubt he would want to retire as the most reviled man in the history of Louisiana.
I can't imagine that Martin is taking a beating in the press and with the Michigan alums to cover up a conspiracy to announce Miles is the UM coach on Jan. 8. He is being roasted by the press in Michigan and the Michigan alums. Carr is being roasted. I doubt Martin would be throwing Carr under the bus by remaining silent. I doubt any AD would allow himself to be painted as inept and a buffoon when he knows that Miles will be coaching at Michigan.
I doubt Miles is so devious, disingenous and corrupt that he would lead the BOS into a trap by signing an extension, saying he planned to be at LSU for many years, etc. If he were to do such a thing, he would absolutely destroy an image of integrity and honesty that he has worked hard to develop and present. He would forever by tainted by such action. I just don't see him doing that.
Compare: When Alabama was engaged in its search, it remained completely silent about contacts with Nick Saban. Nary a peep throughout the process in its dealing with Saban despite the constant rumors and assurances from some in the press that Saban was going to Bama or was in discussions with them.
Martin has denied that he has had discussions with Miles or his agent. His agent has said there have been no discussions other than to tell Martin after the LSU deal was done that Miles was staying at LSU. Miles has said that there have been no contacts with Michigan.
Now, could Michigan contact Miles now or after the NC and try to hire him?? Sure. But I think the train has left the station. Miles' reputation would take a huge hit, because the press would assume, as would virtually everyone else, that the deal had been in the works all along, no matter what the denials. Martin would still look like a complete liar and buffoon. Miles would be vilified by virtually everyone but some Michigan diehards. Bertman would leave his legacy at LSU in shreds.
I doubt seriously that any one of the principals involved are willing to face the fallout from a Miles move to Michigan now. It's over.
Can you imagine the fallout in Baton Rouge if Bertman was a participant in such an elaborate coverup. I know he is retiring, but I doubt he would want to retire as the most reviled man in the history of Louisiana.
I can't imagine that Martin is taking a beating in the press and with the Michigan alums to cover up a conspiracy to announce Miles is the UM coach on Jan. 8. He is being roasted by the press in Michigan and the Michigan alums. Carr is being roasted. I doubt Martin would be throwing Carr under the bus by remaining silent. I doubt any AD would allow himself to be painted as inept and a buffoon when he knows that Miles will be coaching at Michigan.
I doubt Miles is so devious, disingenous and corrupt that he would lead the BOS into a trap by signing an extension, saying he planned to be at LSU for many years, etc. If he were to do such a thing, he would absolutely destroy an image of integrity and honesty that he has worked hard to develop and present. He would forever by tainted by such action. I just don't see him doing that.
Compare: When Alabama was engaged in its search, it remained completely silent about contacts with Nick Saban. Nary a peep throughout the process in its dealing with Saban despite the constant rumors and assurances from some in the press that Saban was going to Bama or was in discussions with them.
Martin has denied that he has had discussions with Miles or his agent. His agent has said there have been no discussions other than to tell Martin after the LSU deal was done that Miles was staying at LSU. Miles has said that there have been no contacts with Michigan.
Now, could Michigan contact Miles now or after the NC and try to hire him?? Sure. But I think the train has left the station. Miles' reputation would take a huge hit, because the press would assume, as would virtually everyone else, that the deal had been in the works all along, no matter what the denials. Martin would still look like a complete liar and buffoon. Miles would be vilified by virtually everyone but some Michigan diehards. Bertman would leave his legacy at LSU in shreds.
I doubt seriously that any one of the principals involved are willing to face the fallout from a Miles move to Michigan now. It's over.
This post was edited on 12/8/07 at 5:50 pm
Posted on 12/8/07 at 5:56 pm to tigerinridgeland
I posted this on other thread (thought it was this one that I started). Here is what was posted on our premium by a reliable guy who has proven his connections before.
"The insiders still believe Miles may do a deal with scUM as he wants to go to AA and most of the large donors want Miles. I asked them how Miles would be perceived to renig on LSU and they said he does not care what anyone thinks. They are very unorganized in AA right now."
"The insiders still believe Miles may do a deal with scUM as he wants to go to AA and most of the large donors want Miles. I asked them how Miles would be perceived to renig on LSU and they said he does not care what anyone thinks. They are very unorganized in AA right now."
Posted on 12/8/07 at 6:05 pm to SoCalBuckeye
Sounds as reliable as Herb and all the others. I doubt seriously that Miles doesnt care what his image is. Miles is no fool. I think it's over, and anything else is the kind of whimsy and foolishness that has been descredited time and again.
This post was edited on 12/8/07 at 6:06 pm
Posted on 12/8/07 at 6:12 pm to Rocket
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Naw, lots of older folks on here.
Hey, I resemble that remark.
I have hesitated to say this but I am going to come out and say it. I believe Miles is a man of his word but further I believe he is a man of character, and a true family man.
That being said, I believe he would have a hard time explaining to his son that he lied about his commitment to LSU in signing the contract.
I would say that would have to weigh heavy on his mind especially if he is the man of high character that I think he is.
My opinion.
ECS
Posted on 12/8/07 at 6:15 pm to tigerinridgeland
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Sounds as reliable as Herb and all the others. I doubt seriously that Miles doesnt care what his image is. Miles is no fool. I think it's over, and anything else is the kind of whimsy and foolishness that has been descredited time and again.
I hope so. I don't want to see Miles in Michigan despite what other Buckeyes might think. He has the fire that Michigan has lacked as Carr got older. He will turn that place over trying to get it back to the top. I hope he stays at LSU.
Posted on 12/8/07 at 7:08 pm to SoCalBuckeye
Rocket/Eggster
You guys see that dream post on Rivals? Guy talking about the MSC thing, and that Carr would retire/leave the football program. Dude said he might not even coach bowl game.
I like a good story...but that one was way out there.
LINK
You guys see that dream post on Rivals? Guy talking about the MSC thing, and that Carr would retire/leave the football program. Dude said he might not even coach bowl game.
I like a good story...but that one was way out there.
LINK
Posted on 12/8/07 at 7:52 pm to Aged Woverine
They offered the job to the Rutgers coach and he turned it down.
No way miles plays sloppy seconds, thirds or whatever.
At this point, I think there is zero chance of Miles to Michigan.
No way miles plays sloppy seconds, thirds or whatever.
At this point, I think there is zero chance of Miles to Michigan.
Posted on 12/8/07 at 8:39 pm to SoCalBuckeye
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He has the fire that Michigan has lacked as Carr got older. He will turn that place over trying to get it back to the top
Hells yeah. That's why so many in Mich were fired up over his "impending" hire.
He'll be plenty fired up for the NC game though...especially since it's against the Buckeyes.
Posted on 12/8/07 at 8:50 pm to Cammie74
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This article is claiming it was Mary Sue Coleman who nixed Miles, not Martin:
That should make their fanbase even happier...
Posted on 12/8/07 at 8:55 pm to jlc05
With enough outpour, even MSCs job isnt safe. If folks down here luv their Tigers, what is to make you think we luv our Woverines any less? Hah pun
We have smoldered for a few yrs watching our team be spanked in OSU/bowls...this was a fire waiting to happen, and is now ablaze since App St/hiring fiasco.
I dont see any way of em getting out of without giving the fans a legitimate coach. Starting with Les, and working up the pay scale from there if that boat sunk. Had to throw that Martin reference in :P
We have smoldered for a few yrs watching our team be spanked in OSU/bowls...this was a fire waiting to happen, and is now ablaze since App St/hiring fiasco.
I dont see any way of em getting out of without giving the fans a legitimate coach. Starting with Les, and working up the pay scale from there if that boat sunk. Had to throw that Martin reference in :P
Posted on 12/8/07 at 10:34 pm to SoCalBuckeye
Latest name I heard earlier this evening on Sporting News Radio is that Michigan may be talking to Sarkisian out in California.
Posted on 12/8/07 at 10:40 pm to tigerinridgeland
Someone on Rivals right now going on about Stoops. Anymore I dont care...a good coach that will gut the program and I am GTG.
Damn my nerves :P
Damn my nerves :P
Posted on 12/8/07 at 11:27 pm to jackTatum
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on the next plane, Jan 8th.
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