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Les Miles 2 yrs. Into his 7 yr. Contarct! Is this true??
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:01 am
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:01 am
I talked to Dak Prescott's mom today and she talked to Les in Haughton yesterday and asked him if he was going to take the Michigan job and he told her no that he was 2 yrs into his 7 yr. Contract. I didn't think he had that long left?
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Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:04 am to hemiroid
Wow
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:07 am to hemiroid
I knew that the end was not far away from his current contract.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:30 am to hemiroid
According to BelowPar ......he might get a new contract. Might this be what Les is talking about?
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:34 am to MoreOrLes
Could also be the "automatic rollover"?
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:42 am to hemiroid
Not good......
Recent BCS stats show a coach is most likely to win a BCSNC in the first 5 yrs and nothing after.
That programs that change coaches more often are more succesful. Saw that on ESPNU the other night.
Its a new day and era in college football and keeping a coach around isnt good for a program like it used to be. Programs that change coaches more often won the BCSNC more often.
I think only one program was that not the case in the BCS era.
Recent BCS stats show a coach is most likely to win a BCSNC in the first 5 yrs and nothing after.
That programs that change coaches more often are more succesful. Saw that on ESPNU the other night.
Its a new day and era in college football and keeping a coach around isnt good for a program like it used to be. Programs that change coaches more often won the BCSNC more often.
I think only one program was that not the case in the BCS era.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:44 am to Ray Ray Rodman
Seems like a small sample size to draw such a definitive conclusion.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:46 am to Ray Ray Rodman
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That programs that change coaches more often are more succesful. Saw that on ESPNU the other night.
"There are lies. There are damnable lies. And there are statistics."--Mark Twain
And to the extent that statistics can be made to lie in order to support an agenda (e.g., stories about coaching changes) ESPNU in particular and the ESPN networks in general are more likely to do it than anyone not formally affiliated with the National Democratic Party.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 10:52 am to Ray Ray Rodman
The BCS has been around for what, 12 years? 15?
Since schools change coaches every two years after a coach wins "only" 9 games, why should that stat be surprising?
I think it has more to do with the parity in football than it does with changing coaches. There are more "powerhouse" programs these days than there was 20-30 years ago so FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, etc won't dominate for extended periods. Even the teams that suck can pull off an upset of the major schools every couple years.
Since schools change coaches every two years after a coach wins "only" 9 games, why should that stat be surprising?
I think it has more to do with the parity in football than it does with changing coaches. There are more "powerhouse" programs these days than there was 20-30 years ago so FSU, Miami, Notre Dame, etc won't dominate for extended periods. Even the teams that suck can pull off an upset of the major schools every couple years.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 11:16 am to Ray Ray Rodman
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Its a new day and era in college football and keeping a coach around isnt good for a program like it used to be. Programs that change coaches more often won the BCSNC more often.
I think only one program was that not the case in the BCS era.
Interesting considering that only TWO schools have won 2 BCS championships. LSU and Florida. LSU changed coaches, Florida did not.
That tells me that it's not a statistically significant number whatsoever.
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 11:17 am
Posted on 12/1/10 at 1:17 pm to nycajun
We have won nothing in the last 3 years including the SEC West. We finished 3rd in the West this year.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 1:21 pm to hemiroid
Well, he's technically 3 years into his 7 yr contract if he got it rolled over the previous two seasons, so what's the catch? He may have said 2 but meant three.
Not that hard to figure out. My guess is people are taking this too seriously. Probably just a slip of saying 2 instead of 3. Big Deal.
Not that hard to figure out. My guess is people are taking this too seriously. Probably just a slip of saying 2 instead of 3. Big Deal.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 1:22 pm to bmy
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Interesting considering that only TWO schools have won 2 BCS championships. LSU and Florida. LSU changed coaches, Florida did not.
That tells me that it's not a statistically significant number whatsoever.
And ALL of those were won by coaches in their first 5 yrs at the program. Point proven.
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 2:12 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 1:34 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
Let's look at them actually. Since 2000 the following teams have won NCs an the head coaches year at the school:
2000 - OU - Stoops' 2nd year
2001 - Miami - Coker's 1st year
2002 - tOSU - Tressel's 2nd year
2003 - LSU - Saban's 4th year
2003 - USC - Carroll's 4th year
2004 - USC - Carrolls 5th year
2005 - UT - Brown's 8th year
2006 - UF - Meyer's 2nd year
2007 - LSU - Miles' 3rd year
2008 - UF - Meyer's 4th year
2009 - Bama - Saban's 3rd year
2010 (possible) - Oregon - Kelly's 2nd year
2010 (possible) - Auburn - Chizik's 2nd year
So basically, only once in the past 11 years has a coach won the NC after being at the school for more than 5 years.
I'd say that matches up with the suggestion.
2000 - OU - Stoops' 2nd year
2001 - Miami - Coker's 1st year
2002 - tOSU - Tressel's 2nd year
2003 - LSU - Saban's 4th year
2003 - USC - Carroll's 4th year
2004 - USC - Carrolls 5th year
2005 - UT - Brown's 8th year
2006 - UF - Meyer's 2nd year
2007 - LSU - Miles' 3rd year
2008 - UF - Meyer's 4th year
2009 - Bama - Saban's 3rd year
2010 (possible) - Oregon - Kelly's 2nd year
2010 (possible) - Auburn - Chizik's 2nd year
So basically, only once in the past 11 years has a coach won the NC after being at the school for more than 5 years.
I'd say that matches up with the suggestion.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 1:39 pm to LSUMafia
So the obvious conclusion is to fire a coach immediately after he wins a NC.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 1:42 pm to Choctaw
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So the obvious conclusion is to fire a coach immediately after he wins a NC.
Apparently.
It's nothing but an interesting stat to be honest and shows more that most of the coaches before them brought in great talent and that the new coaching helped push them to the top in most cases like you see with Tressel, Meyer (in his 1st), Stoops, Miles, Saban (in his 2nd)
This also ignores the fact OU has been in the NC game multiple times, as has UT, USC, tOSU and simply they've lost those games.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 1:47 pm to Ray Ray Rodman
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Recent BCS stats show a coach is most likely to win a BCSNC in the first 5 yrs and nothing after.
Big time misleading imo.
5 of these BCS NCs are from SEC schools: LSU with Saban, LSU with Miles, Bama with Saban, 2 with Meyer at Florida. 3 good coaches with 5 BCS titles.
USC won it in 2004 with Carroll. Oklahoma, Ohio State, Texas, USC, ect have been in the BCSNC, but haven't won it since 2002/2005. None of those schools have had coaching turnover during their run. Just happens that the SEC has been better during that same time.
Coaching turnover happens most at the upper tier programs because of the demand to perform...especially in the SEC.
This post was edited on 12/1/10 at 1:49 pm
Posted on 12/1/10 at 2:11 pm to LSUMafia
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So basically, only once in the past 11 years has a coach won the NC after being at the school for more than 5 years.
I'd say that matches up with the suggestion.
Yea I think it was 5 yrs because Brown was the only exception they mentioned.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 2:15 pm to GeauxTigersLee
They said it has more to do with excitment from the players and them buying into the program and system of a new coach. Once a coach has been there a long time that is no longer the case.
Posted on 12/1/10 at 2:21 pm to peopleschamp
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We have won nothing in the last 3 years including the SEC West. We finished 3rd in the West this year.
And did you notice a drop off after Matt Flynn?
yes or no will do
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