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re: Jimbo update- A&M

Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:22 am to
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:22 am to
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LSU may go 6-6 next year. I think it’s highly likely your on the carousel next year.




Take that thought, put it in a folder and file it under Wishful Thinking.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104861 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:23 am to
If Jimbo is worth 10 years 75 million, which alot of these lsu and aggie posters seem to think he is, what is the following coach worth:

11-2
11-2-
12-2-National champ
8-5
9-4
11-2
13-1-National runner up
10-3
10-3
8-5
10-3
2-2



Jimbo's record for reference

10-4
9-4
12-2
14-0-National champ
13-1
10-3
10-3
5-6
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:25 am to
The more people talk, the more and more I see why Alleva thought it was ok to hire Orgeron.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:27 am to
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Les Miles wasn't worth that


From 2005-2011 he sure hell was
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:30 am to
Jimbo's not worth it, Les isn't worth it, Herman's not worth it, our fanbase doesn't think anyone's worth it. I don't know what the hell is wrong with us.

Well we got what we deserved in shrimp boat captain.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104861 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:30 am to
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From 2005-2011 he sure hell was
Current les miles is worth every bit as much as Jimbo......

Look at the records I posted
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104861 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:32 am to
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Well we got what we deserved in shrimp boat captain.
Signing Jimbo after firing Les would have been stupid. You are firing one coach, to hire almost an identical product. Herman was the hire to make
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46657 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:32 am to
quote:

Did Larry Coker, Mack Brown and Gene Chizik turn you down before you snagged Jimbo?


Don't play dumb
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13406 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:35 am to
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From 2005-2011 he sure hell was



It's not like his salary was going down after that. He was way over paid for the product on the field. I agree you have to spend $ to get a top coach. But $ doesn't equal success. Look at the top 10 paid coaches, all but 3 are losers. Jimbo hasn't done much since winning a champ besides getting blown out by oregon, losing to houston, and beating michigan.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13406 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:37 am to
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You are firing one coach, to hire almost an identical product. Herman was the hire to make



Completely agree with this. Hiring the younger coach was the winning move. Look at their recruiting class already. Jimbo doesn't have pruitt anymore. It will be interesting to see which coordinators Jimbo brings in.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:41 am to
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Signing Jimbo after firing Les would have been stupid. You are firing one coach, to hire almost an identical product. Herman was the hire to make


They're not the identical product though.

They get similar results but what I heard from Miles detractors is that it's not that we lost, but it's the way we lost, right? You want to sit here and say that Jimbo loses games because of bad QB play and lack of imagination on offense?

The reality is you're not going to find a coach on the market that's going to deliver better average results than Miles or Jimbo. But maybe you switch philosophies and that's enough to catch a break here or there that we wouldn't have caught with the previous coach.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9078 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:49 am to
LOL Y'all fired les miles for orgeron.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104861 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:52 am to
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You want to sit here and say that Jimbo loses games because of bad QB play and lack of imagination on offense?
Jimbo loses games in far more infuriating fashion honestly. Getting blasted by inferior opponents
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 9:53 am
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:52 am to
quote:

LOL Y'all fired les miles for orgeron.


And has a better record year one...

Y'all got SKULL frickED by Orgeron.... LOL
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
104861 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:53 am to
quote:

LOL Y'all fired les miles for orgeron.

Orgeron went 9-3 (6-2)

Whats your point? Hire seems fine.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9078 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:53 am to
Herman is star chasing. Their biggest holes are the trenches and they are not improving there AT ALL. Their recruiting class is heavy on perimeter players. 1 DT and 2 OL.

It may be fine in the Big12, but i wouldnt get too enamored with his recruiting ranking, when its clear rank is the only thing he's prioritizing.

It's a push for hype/narrative.
Posted by Nguyening
SEMO
Member since Jun 2013
9078 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:54 am to
Good luck with that.
Posted by CBandits82
Lurker since May 2008
Member since May 2012
57135 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:54 am to
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Restomod



How do you think the next few years play out with Orgeron?

What is Orgeron's ceiling in your opinion?
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13406 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:55 am to
And it'll most likely end up working. There's still over 2 months left till signing day.
Posted by hashtag
Comfy, AF
Member since Aug 2005
31005 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 9:56 am to
quote:

How do you think the next few years play out with Orgeron?

What is Orgeron's ceiling in your opinion?

IMO, this year was his ceiling. Next year is a tough schedule with a new QB, new starting and backup RBs, possibly another new OC. We'll lose Dave Aranda eventually and hire someone not as good to replace him.

By 2020, LSU is going to be firing Orgeron.
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