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re: It all depends on the source of the leak...

Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:22 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:22 am to
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Only to idiots does Herman look bad. This is how the world works. It's also how you maximize your financial opportunities in a negotiation.

It's really not that complicated.

Herman's agent leaking this stuff is a nuclear-level negotiation tactic bordering on insanity
Posted by HMTVBrian2
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:23 am to
I don't think he meant for it to get to the press. That was all on the boosters who lost their shite when they were faced with the possibility of losing him. I think his agent most definitely let them know what was going on but I can't imagine he wanted it go blow up like that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:24 am to
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If his agent didn't leak the info to get Texas to move on him instead of dragging this out, then his agent didn't do his job.

if he agent leaked that information at that time, and UT didn't bite, then Herman may not have a job at LSU afterwards and he's stuck at Houston with a huge black mark
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:24 am to
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I feel ya. Ultimately we all realize it was texas boosters who broke it to Chip Brown/ESPN but how'd that information get into their hands? The assumption that his agent told them what was going on feels correct, but whether it was a ploy to get them in action or to let them know he was going in another direction is where we're at now.


It's not that hard. UT has a weak admin and the boosters don't trust them to handle this. The agent contacts the administration, and that leaks to key boosters through connections they would obviously have. Then they go on the rampage.

I can't say this definitely happened, but it's plausible.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:24 am to
I agree. It doesn't make sense. I'm not sure I want him as coach of he directed his agent to leak the info the day before his team's final game to force UT's hand.

I think it's over. I think UT leaked it. I think he's probably enraged at having to answer the questions and at the distractions.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 10:26 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:25 am to
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Herman's agent leaking this stuff is a nuclear-level negotiation tactic bordering on insanity


I'm not saying he leaked the info to ESPN. I'm saying he told UT what was on the table from the LSU side. That info then made it's way to the boosters who then leaked the it because they were pissed.

That is SOP from agents in negotiations.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 10:27 am
Posted by jmswp4
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:26 am to
You should not assume Herman "let" his agent do anything. At the end of the day, agents do what's best for themselves. Don't overlook the fact that good agents have multiple clients. Manipulating a situation that sends a client in one direction can result in a job opportunity for another client, or two other clients.
Posted by tuptiger
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:26 am to
If Texas then took it to ESPN, I think Texas is dead to him.
Posted by 0
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:27 am to


Posted by bwallcubfan
Louisiana
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:27 am to
Hornsdigest isn't LSU, so....
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:27 am to
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That is SOP from agents in negotiations.

not when you've agreed to a deal with one school
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:28 am to
But a booster took it to Hornsdigest
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:28 am to
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I'm not sure I want him as coach of he directed his agent to leak the info the day before his team's final game to force UT's hand.


No client controls every action of their agent. The agent is most often told to do what it takes to get the best deal possible.

Most of the time, the client probably doesn't even want to know what tactics were used to get things done.
Posted by NashBamaFan
Nashville
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:28 am to
He is staying at Houston who will match any LSU offer and he will wait another year or 2 an so end up somewhere else.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36334 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:29 am to
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quote: All agents want a bidding war for their clients so they can get the most money for them. A LSU vs. Texas bidding war would throw the price for Herman way up. I'm glad someone else understands how this works.


It doesn't if LSU backs away and makes another run at Jimbo. For some schools, a leak like that is an instant deal-killer.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52640 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:29 am to
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not when you've agreed to a deal with one school


A handshake agreement is nothing more than a negotiating tool to further drive a bidding ware to agents. Thinking otherwise is crazy.
Posted by sheeeeeit
Member since Sep 2013
1024 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:30 am to
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He is staying at Houston who will match any LSU offer and he will wait another year or 2 an so end up somewhere else.


That may be one of the top 3 most retarded things I've ever read on this website.
Posted by tuptiger
Member since Jan 2008
4314 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:30 am to
I love the Bama fans coming on here. Saban would be cursing every single person out in a 10 mile radius of it had leaked to ESPN the day before his team's final game because of a booster. If it distracted his team from performing well.
This post was edited on 11/25/16 at 10:33 am
Posted by TickledTiger
Down & Out
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:31 am to
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How'd they know he was close to signing with LSU?
.....LSU message boards, perhaps?
Posted by 0
Member since Aug 2011
18010 posts
Posted on 11/25/16 at 10:31 am to
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That is SOP from agents in negotiations.


To tell the world that you have agreed to terms on a deal but are still interested in hearing other offers? Are you really dumb enough to think that is normal? That doesn't help Herman in anyway and makes him and his agent look terrible in the public's perception.
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