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I hate having to break in a new coach....

Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:34 pm
Posted by FredSecunda
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:34 pm
but it sure is fun to watch all this stuff unfold. If we lose Miles, this coaching changes board is going to blow up. I'd rank watching a coaching change right up the with watching the NFL Draft or following LSU recruiting, it's fun as hell.

I'm on the edge of my seat when I think about the new faces that'll be on the sidelines in just the SEC alone next year. Potentially, we could have new coaches at Ole Miss, Arkansas, LSU, Auburn, and South Carolina next season. Anyone else like watching the coaching carousel unfold?
Posted by Rocket
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61117 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:38 pm to
The thing about getting a new coach is you never know what's gonna happen when you do get one. It is such a crapshoot.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:40 pm to
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The thing about getting a new coach is you never know what's gonna happen when you do get one. It is such a crapshoot.



True, but it is exciting. I want Big Les to stay, but I'm not as much for stability as most. I really do enjoy all this talk of possible new hires. Makes me a little moist.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:41 pm to
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The thing about getting a new coach is you never know what's gonna happen when you do get one. It is such a crapshoot.


oh come on Rocket, you know the greatest coaches will be lining up outside Skip's office begging him for the opportunity to coach the greatest team for the greatest fans in the world!!!!
Posted by FredSecunda
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:42 pm to
Don't you think in this day and age, that the coaching landscape has changed such that you should only expect to have a coach for about five years? People always talk of stability and how we need a coach to stay here for 20 years, but I think one of the worst things that can happen is being stuck with a mediocre coach like Paterno or Bobby Bowden who simply don't know when to leave.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:44 pm to


Sure, it gives us something to talk about. But, I just feel comfortable with Les here now.

I was really comfortable with Saban here. I liked his unquestioned authority. And when he left, I thought it was going to be the end of LSU football.

It took me a loooooooooooong time to get over that and to get comfortable with Miles.

It'll take me a long time to get comfortable with a new coach, regardless of who he is. I have to know how he views everything...from recruiting, to discipline, to offense, defense, special teams...everything.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:45 pm to
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Don't you think in this day and age, that the coaching landscape has changed such that you should only expect to have a coach for about five years?


and having one leave for a dream job is a MUCH better scenario for hiring the next one compared to running one off (especially if that coach has a very strong record).
Posted by tigernurse
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:51 pm to
i feel better and yet worse at the same time with all of the changes occurring.

i have read many a thread on here complaining that les hasn't taken us to the MNC, i wonder how we would do with pelini out and a new aggressive dc in who can match up to les miles risk taking style.

and if this thought has been posted before, i apologize i've overlooked it amongst the millions of other threads.
This post was edited on 11/25/07 at 2:58 pm
Posted by LSU Weirdo
Lakeland, TN
Member since Mar 2006
813 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:54 pm to
MANY MANY people at the time thought that Curley Hallman was a really good hire.

Hiring a new coach is ALWAYS at least a bit of a crapshoot. There's no way to accurately predict how it will work out. The possible potential downside is huge, and we have a lot to lose.

Personally, I like Miles, and I really hope he stays. Theoretically, we could do better, but it's a risky proposition.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12594 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 2:57 pm to
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i have read many a thread on here complaining that les hasn't taken us to the MNC


only two people in the long history of LSU football have done so. I don't usually pay attention to the people making those complaints.
Posted by crawfishcharlie
Crawfishtown, USA
Member since Dec 2003
4884 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:00 pm to
Like the #1 gump says.....

It's like a box of chocolates...


Posted by LSUDad
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Member since May 2004
62963 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:14 pm to
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The thing about getting a new coach is you never know what's gonna happen when you do get one. It is such a crapshoot.


Not if you get the right coach.

And how hard was it to break in the last two coaches?

Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:18 pm to
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Not if you get the right coach.


Of course. But it's always a gamble getting the "right" coach.

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And how hard was it to break in the last two coaches?


Define "break in".
Posted by TigerinTennessee
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2005
284 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:34 pm to
Is there an LSU alumni coach out there that has ties to this school? We need to find someone who's not looking for the next best job to come along.
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:36 pm to
quote:

Don't you think in this day and age, that the coaching landscape has changed such that you should only expect to have a coach for about five years? People always talk of stability and how we need a coach to stay here for 20 years, but I think one of the worst things that can happen is being stuck with a mediocre coach like Paterno or Bobby Bowden who simply don't know when to leave.



I agree with every word of this. Programs can get stale and stagnant with the same coach too long.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:38 pm to
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Is there an LSU alumni coach out there that has ties to this school? We need to find someone who's not looking for the next best job to come along.


Rob Sale and Thomas Dunson

quote:

We need to find someone who's not looking for the next best job to come along.


No, we don't. We need to find the best possible candidate
Posted by TigerinTennessee
Brentwood, TN
Member since Sep 2005
284 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 3:40 pm to
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Programs can get stale and stagnant with the same coach too long.


True...but this changing of coaches every 3 to 5 years gets old too.
Posted by LSUDad
Still on the move
Member since May 2004
62963 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 4:04 pm to
Its like any other job, its who's applying for the job.

One of the best at the breakin period, Gerry D. and we all know how that one turned out.

He had the great bring back the Magic, moved to pick up a great recruit, had a great one on one with Fans, Players and the higher ups at LSU.
I don't see a bad transition in the last three LSU coaches.

I don't see breaking-in, its more of how they transition from old job to the LSU job.

quote:

break in, break (make submissive, obedient, or useful)


I don't know if break in is the right term to use?

Posted by los angeles tiger
1,601 miles from Tiger Stadium
Member since Oct 2003
55976 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 4:07 pm to
I'm sick of coaching changes.
Posted by Rocket
Member since Mar 2004
61117 posts
Posted on 11/25/07 at 4:08 pm to
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Its like any other job, its who's applying for the job


Right, but it's always a gamble.

Some people are hoping he goes to UM, but we're not guaranteed to get someone who wins at a high rate like Miles does.

People need to be careful what they wish for
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