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How much control will the new OC have???

Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:29 pm
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
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Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:29 pm
How much do you guys think the new OC will have to say about personel and play calling decisions?

I think we will be able to tell a whole lot from the hire. If it's a big name guy, who has a good rep as an OC, and we pay a decent amount of money, Miles will have decided to turn the offense, or at least the vast majority of it, to the OC.

If it's a guy that kind of leaves us scratching our heads as to why we took him, this is all Miles' offense...

Watchya say???
Posted by houstontyga
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2004
4193 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:34 pm to
Miles will always have a hand in playcalling.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:37 pm to
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Miles will always have a hand in playcalling.


Well then maybe he needs to hire a low-end guy, for pretty little money. Make sure that guy is great at developing QBs, or use some of the saved money to hire a QB coach along with him. Then he can be the Sean Payton type holding the play card the entire game and controlling the entire offense.

Either that, or give 95% of the control to the guy he hires.

It's possible that maybe Miles is causing some of our problems on the offense mixing his style with the OC's.
Posted by szeringue
Member since Jan 2011
182 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:40 pm to
Yea let Les call em. He obviously doesn't have anything else going on on gameday. C'mon Man
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:41 pm to
quote:

Yea let Les call em. He obviously doesn't have anything else going on on gameday. C'mon Man


Are you serious??? They don't have HC's that control the entire offense?

What else exactly does he have "going on" on gameday?
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
16085 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:42 pm to
fair assessment
Posted by Methuselah
On da Riva
Member since Jan 2005
23350 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

re: How much control will the new OC have???

The correct answer is ... 3.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:51 pm to
Posted by tcoachmc
Palo Alto
Member since Dec 2010
916 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:55 pm to
Tressel calls the plays at Ohio State. He has an OC in title but he calls the plays. So does Petrino at Arkansas.
Posted by szeringue
Member since Jan 2011
182 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:58 pm to
Yes I know HC's do it all but my point was(sarcasm) that Les sure isn't concerned about clock management, timeouts etc. Hence, he has nothing else going on on game day. Might as well take on more responsibility. Les ought to just get a quality OC and tend to those game day issues that he once told us would never happen again. And as we all know they did.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 6:59 pm to
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Tressel calls the plays at Ohio State. He has an OC in title but he calls the plays. So does Petrino at Arkansas.


That's what I'm saying...It was the other poster who acted like this was an unheard of thing to happen in football.

I wouldn't actually put it past Miles to do this. shite...it's the only way he can get exactly what he wants on the field. And it would actually be a great time for him to do it. We wont be able to afford to fire him for another 5 years if he fails miserably at it (which I don't think he would). I'd just rather see him hire a big time guy and let them control the offense.
Posted by Seven Constanza
Brooklyn
Member since Sep 2009
799 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:04 pm to
If Rich Rod were OC he would call the plays.
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:06 pm to
quote:

If Rich Rod were OC he would call the plays.


But Rich Rod will not be the OC...


I think if there is any truth to this Duke guy coming here, then Miles will run most of the offense. Not saying the guy is not a good coach, just saying that a guy coming out of left field like this would be most likely means that Miles wants to run the offense.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
46380 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:06 pm to
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If it's a big name guy, who has a good rep as an OC, and we pay a decent amount of money


uhhh, doesn't that describe Crowton? and wasn't he "meddled with"?
Posted by oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2006
26411 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:08 pm to
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doesn't that describe Crowton? and wasn't he "meddled with"?


Did Crowton, at any point have full control of the offense, and Miles didn't find him successful enough?

Did Crowton always have most of the control of the offense and he just sucks?

Did Miles tamper with Crowton's offense, and just used Crowton as his scape goat to take all the blame for the offensive struggles? If so, did Miles learn his lesson??
Posted by szeringue
Member since Jan 2011
182 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:48 pm to
Since GC is now gone, we have to assume that Les thinks there needs to be a change in offensive leadership and or philosophy. We as a fan base totally concur with that and have wanted a change for a while. He can hire a no name and have his hand in play calling, but to me that could come at a cost. If this is done, he better be ready for more personal criticism if it doesn't go well. I think he would try to keep that criticism to a minimum and at the same time get a quality OC that matches his philosophy. That being said, I think Les will try to make a hire equivalent to Chavis' on Defense. He was an experienced proven coordinator and the results prove that it was successful. I don't know who it will be, but I just hope if it is between someone like Gonzo or Justin Fuente, he would go with the latter. Coordinators are so important, just look at what the KC Chiefs were able to do with quality guys running both sides of the ball. Les is a great head coach (CEO like), but we need an x's and o's coordinator on offense that is great at grooming QB's. I don't know what Gonzo brings to the table as far as that is concerned. One thing I know, Les is a lucky son of a gun so whatever he chooses will probably work out.
Posted by dreaux
baton rouge
Member since Oct 2006
40882 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 7:58 pm to
He is the head coach


sssoooooo?
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22301 posts
Posted on 1/13/11 at 8:02 pm to
honestly, i just hope we can get a guy who can devlope our qbs and get the most out of them. i don't thin crowton is a bad oc, his bigger problem was the lack of qb development. also, i would much rather les hire someone who fits his style of offense, rather than trying to combine his style with another. someone mentioned the guy from wisconsin (in another thread) and it makes perfect sense imo.
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