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re: Gundy ahead of Fedora **ETA Herman update**
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:43 pm to BilJ
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:43 pm to BilJ
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The team was done with Les....we all knew they were better than what we were seeing. Again, it's just more of an indictment of Les, history will not be kind to him
Well, I agree. It was time.
Herman is my top choice, because I think he's a shooting star type in the industry. Could be a master burn out, but I think he could take LSU into the next golden era.
Not a Jimbo fan for various reasons.
But after those two, everything gets a bit murkier and more questionable IMO
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Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:44 pm to OBUDan
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Not a Jimbo fan for various reasons.
such as?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:44 pm to Deactived
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did you just compare recruiting LSU basketball with the football team?
I just don't think it should be assumed any coach with a winning record should be hired and will show up and do a great job.
Some guys work well at one place and not another.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:46 pm to OBUDan
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Since taking over, all three phases of the game have improved.
The players love him and that won't change.
First, he's done this with a program that was already built, it wasn't hard to make a few tweaks to see improvements. The question is where will it be in 5 years with O at the helm. That's a big unknown at this point.
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Nobody is gonna beat Bama and we put forth the best possible effort.
Disagree, O was pretty much baffled as far as in-game adjustments were concerned. Granted, they may not have worked, but he looked lost on the sidelines. It was 1/9 with better defense on LSU's part.
IMO, Orgeron is basically Johnny Jones on the football field. Most of what he does is clap his hands and say "come on guys, let's go".
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:46 pm to Deactived
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such as?
His teams underperform their insane talent levels.
He's unwilling to adapt to more modern offensive techniques, even to the point of publicly calling them "illegal."
I think he's a good solid coach that we are going to have to pay like he's one of the best coaches in CFB.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:48 pm to Random LSU Hero
eta = estimated time of arrival
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:48 pm to OBUDan
College football is so centered around recruiting and our state is set up perfectly for basically anyone to come in and recruit better than most teams in the country.
Jimbo is a top recruiter and would clean house in LA.
Jimbo is a top recruiter and would clean house in LA.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:49 pm to yimbeaux
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eta = estimated time of arrival
on a message board its "edited to add"
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:49 pm to OBUDan
I don't see what O brings to the table besides meaningless intangibles people keep throwing out there. He loves the school....great so did Les.
Hire the best coach. Period.
Hire the best coach. Period.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:50 pm to LSU12223
Willie Taggart > Gundy.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:52 pm to OBUDan
So O would require a top tier OC?
Fisher is considered a top tier OC
And a tier 1 HC
and the best qb developer in college football
And he is a Southern man with ties to LSU. His offense currently holds 13 records at LSU!
How do you not see the irony?
Fisher is considered a top tier OC
And a tier 1 HC
and the best qb developer in college football
And he is a Southern man with ties to LSU. His offense currently holds 13 records at LSU!
How do you not see the irony?
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 6:55 pm
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:52 pm to OBUDan
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. He wouldn't tank the ship but probably wouldn't set it to new seas either.
Then why fire Les?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:53 pm to OBUDan
LSU has always been a QB developer away from a championship. Jimbo is a known QB developer.
Hmm....
Hmm....
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 7:00 pm
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:54 pm to Deactived
The same people that dismiss his recruiting ability are generally the same people who say he had a fluke once in a generation quarterback in Jameis Winston
Again, I just don't see how they fail to see the irony
Again, I just don't see how they fail to see the irony
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:57 pm to tjohn deaux
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LSU has always been a QB developer away from a championship. Jumbo is a known QB developer.
I dont get how people dont see this. If we had above average qbs during Miles' stretch, he would still be coaching. Mett fell into our laps and he looked great throwing to 2 nfl starters and a starting rb in the backfield.
The rest of the sec has been saying for years 'damn if lsu had qb play like some of the other teams, they would be stacking up national championships.'
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:58 pm to ForeLSU
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First, he's done this with a program that was already built, it wasn't hard to make a few tweaks to see improvements. The question is where will it be in 5 years with O at the helm. That's a big unknown at this point.
No doubt. I agree. Les built a great roster and staff.
It's all whether or not you believe O can hire a staff capable of replicating results.
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Disagree, O was pretty much baffled as far as in-game adjustments were concerned. Granted, they may not have worked, but he looked lost on the sidelines. It was 1/9 with better defense on LSU's part.
I mean, you can't really disagree with what actually happened. We were the only team with a legit chance to win late against Bama. Ole Miss just ran up meaningless points in a blowout.
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IMO, Orgeron is basically Johnny Jones on the football field. Most of what he does is clap his hands and say "come on guys, let's go".
Might be!
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:59 pm to cas4t
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The same people that dismiss his recruiting ability are generally the same people who say he had a fluke once in a generation quarterback in Jameis Winston
He recruited a great team, coached up a qb who became great, and somehow this is held against him
jesus give me that at lsu any day of the year
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 11/22/16 at 6:59 pm to Deactived
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College football is so centered around recruiting and our state is set up perfectly for basically anyone to come in and recruit better than most teams in the country.
You'd think so, but hasn't always worked out that way.
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Jimbo is a top recruiter and would clean house in LA.
Agreed. I think he'd do a great job on the trail.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:01 pm to BilJ
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Then why fire Les?
I mean, clearly the message wasn't landing any more.
But honestly, the last two years of Jimbo have been the same thing as Les, but in Tally. Mega talent losing when they shouldn't.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 7:02 pm to cas4t
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There are talks of paying a top coach close to 7M dollars yet you want O
Think about that
I think you are the one that needs to think about it. The next coach doesn't necessarily need to be paid that.
If you think Gundy is worth $7M, you are fricking crazy.
It is incredibly ironic that so many people on this board couldn't wait to get rid of Miles, yet are getting hard one because we might hire his replacement. You'd think Boone Pickens was pitching in to keep his coaching costs down.
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