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re: Guilbeau: Sexton being a prick, trying to gouge LSU
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:18 pm to Deactived
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:18 pm to Deactived
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doesnt help his case
It helps, but it's a moot point. Why do people think that Fisher is the answer? It seems like we are going to throw the bank at him and I don't understand why. I hope that I'm wrong about him.
Offense ranking (national) while Fisher was the OC at LSU for 7 years.
2000 #54
2001 #29 (Rohan)
2002 #75
2003 #19 (Mauck)
2004 #42
2005 #43
2006 #9 (Russell)
Average Ranking - #38.71
Nine year ranking after Fisher.
2007 #11 (Flynn)
2008 #30
2009 #77
2010 #45
2011 #17 (Lee/Jefferson)
2012 #57
2013 #27 (Mettenburger)
2014 #76
2015 #43
Average Ranking - #42.6
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Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:19 pm to Le Tenia
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. Hiring a top candidate is going to cost but Jimbo will be more expensive.
His resume calls for more money.
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You don't want to go cheap now. Either one of those guys will be an upgrade.
I agree but Herman isnt a guarantee.
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I like the idea of Herman for multiple reasons.
I say the same for Fisher. He is already proven and I think he is the best long term for LSU
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:23 pm to ByteMe
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Why do people think that Fisher is the answer? It seems like we are going to throw the bank at him and I don't understand why.
Because he is proven.
LSU has been lacking a passing game. Our offensive numbers look comparable because we out talent pretty much every team on the schedule, minus 1 or 2 teams, and we run the ball down their throats.
I would like to see our offensive passing statistics for all of these Miles' years. Iirc, we have been in the 100s more than once.
Fisher can develop a qb and that pretty much has been the missing piece for the better part of 10 years.
You throw the bank at Fisher because its do or die right now
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:25 pm to Le Tenia
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You reference his FSU record and Miles record. Why not show his 7 year offense at FSU side by side with LSU?
I thought what I showed was enough to make my point. Feel free to show something that makes me feel better about him. I just want what is best for LSU.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:25 pm to ByteMe
Fisher's offense at FSU side by side with LSU same time period? Fisher's offense at LSU is nice to remember and reference but is apples and oranges.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:31 pm to ByteMe
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I just want what is best for LSU.
Me too, brother. Herman or Jimbo are home runs and anything less would be a let down.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:32 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
Known facts about Sexton.
1. He is a prick
2. He is trying to gouge LSU.
3. If Jimbo is hired, Sexton will continue to gouge LSU.
4. LSU is much better off without a Jimmy Sexton client coaching at LSU.
I remember when NS was coaching here. Every year at this time Sexton was trolling LSU. When NS left I was glad he was gone. This year end trolling shite gets old. In many ways Im sure FSU maybe happy if JF leaves.
I remember a story that Skip told NS to leave because he was tired of the constant bullshite he and Sexton were constantly pulling.
1. He is a prick
2. He is trying to gouge LSU.
3. If Jimbo is hired, Sexton will continue to gouge LSU.
4. LSU is much better off without a Jimmy Sexton client coaching at LSU.
I remember when NS was coaching here. Every year at this time Sexton was trolling LSU. When NS left I was glad he was gone. This year end trolling shite gets old. In many ways Im sure FSU maybe happy if JF leaves.
I remember a story that Skip told NS to leave because he was tired of the constant bullshite he and Sexton were constantly pulling.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:34 pm to Deactived
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Isnt his buyout 5 million?
Yes, we will have to pay the buyout. I was saying that he will have a ridiculous salary and a ridiculous buyout with LSU, if he comes. His buyout will probably make it impossible to get rid of him until his contract is up.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:35 pm to ByteMe
Jimbo is a $50 million deal all things considered
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:37 pm to ByteMe
This is a longterm hire. The guy is proven. He is the best known option out there.
The prices right now are ridiculous for coaches of his level. We cant get cheap now.
Him and Herman will be great hires. Fwiw, I want the best for LSU also. I just think it is going to cost a lot of money.
The prices right now are ridiculous for coaches of his level. We cant get cheap now.
Him and Herman will be great hires. Fwiw, I want the best for LSU also. I just think it is going to cost a lot of money.
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:50 pm to Zach Lee To Amp Hill
I'm wondering if Sexton doesn't want Fisher at LSU, maybe feeling he has enoungh SEC coaches in the fold. Out pricing LSU and keeping clients in separate leagues, plus getting A Raise in pay for Jimbo.
I could be wrong, but you never know how he might feel about it.
It's a Win for his Client either way ..
I could be wrong, but you never know how he might feel about it.
It's a Win for his Client either way ..
Posted on 11/21/16 at 11:59 pm to Le Tenia
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Fisher's offense at FSU side by side with LSU same time period? Fisher's offense at LSU is nice to remember and reference but is apples and oranges.
In what way? Do you think that he has faced better Defenses in the ACC? With just a decent QB, he is a 2-3 loss team in the ACC...what do you think FSU would do in the SEC?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:01 am to supatigah
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Jimbo is a $50 million deal all things considered
I know, and it baffles me.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:03 am to 24chevrolet48
I think you are overthinking it. If Sexton cared about anything he would probably want MORE of his clients in SEC, a conference obsessed with winning football and willing to pay obscene money to get results from top tier HCs. He has enough clients to place throughout CFB where if he wanted wide distribution he could get it without wanting one less in a particular conference.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:04 am to Deactived
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The guy is proven. He is the best known option out there.
How is he proven? Miles won a national title too, while having to play in the SEC. Trust me, I'm not a Miles fan, I'm just saying.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:07 am to ByteMe
Is that really that crazy?
If Miles goes and gets a job, his buyout will be greatly decreased. Jimbo at 5 million is nothing imo. Look at what teams are spending and getting more than us the past few years.
Lets say that Miles gets hired and we pay the 5 million buyout. We didnt do anything completely crazy
If Miles goes and gets a job, his buyout will be greatly decreased. Jimbo at 5 million is nothing imo. Look at what teams are spending and getting more than us the past few years.
Lets say that Miles gets hired and we pay the 5 million buyout. We didnt do anything completely crazy
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:16 am to Deactived
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Is that really that crazy?
For Saban, no.
What about Fisher's resume' makes him better than Miles?
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:23 am to ByteMe
Since Fisher got to FSU:
Miles-1 sec title and national champ appearance. No other major bowls or even division titles
Jimbo-3 acc titles. 1 national champ(beat the sec). Orange and Rose bowl(playoff) appearances.
Not to mention how many proven quarterbacks Fisher has had a hand in.
Miles won a ton of games on superior talent and defense. Miles was too stubborn and his ego was way too big to compete for another SEC title.
Miles-1 sec title and national champ appearance. No other major bowls or even division titles
Jimbo-3 acc titles. 1 national champ(beat the sec). Orange and Rose bowl(playoff) appearances.
Not to mention how many proven quarterbacks Fisher has had a hand in.
Miles won a ton of games on superior talent and defense. Miles was too stubborn and his ego was way too big to compete for another SEC title.
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:27 am to ByteMe
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ByteMe
You're only using points per game, which is a wholly misleading stat.
You want to compare the special teams / athletes of '00 - '06 against '07 - '16?
Try doing yards / game and see what you come up with. Hint: Jimbo > No Jimbo
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:44 am to Deactived
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Since Fisher got to FSU:
Miles-1 sec title and national champ appearance. No other major bowls or even division titles
Wrong.
In 2007 LSU/Miles won the national championship, the year after Fisher left for FSU. LSU played for the national championship again in 2011.
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