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re: Given Miles' great record at LSU......
Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:53 am to GeauxTigersLee
Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:53 am to GeauxTigersLee
and Zook at UF instead of Meyer
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Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:55 am to GeauxTigersLee
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2000-2004: 48–16 with 1 NC
2005-2010: 61–17 with 1 NC
2 SEC championships in 5 years is better than 1 in 6 years.
Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:55 am to Choctaw
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and Miles improved on the "foundation" that Saban built....does that mean Miles is a better coach?
how many sec titles did Saban win and how many has miles won?
Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:56 am to Topwater Trout
quote:Disagree. Saban is one of the reasons that LSU is a power house program today. Problem is the anti-Miles crowd want another Saban and that's not going to happen. Just because Miles isn't Saban doesn't mean he's not a great coach. Is he quite as good as Saban - no, but Saban is probably the best coach in college football....and Miles is still 2-2 against him.
But yall seem to want to give Miles ultimate credit and that the facilities that Saban improved
Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:58 am to Topwater Trout
Saban won 2 SEC West titles and 2 SEC championships in a much weaker conference.
Miles has won 2 SEC West titles and 1 SEC championship in a much tougher conference....and also has more wins and a higher winning percentage.
Miles has won 2 SEC West titles and 1 SEC championship in a much tougher conference....and also has more wins and a higher winning percentage.
Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:59 am to uway
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2 SEC championships in 5 years is better than 1 in 6 years.
2000-2004: 1 SEC team won the NC (LSU) in 5 years
2005-2010: 4 SEC teams won the NC (possibly 5) in 6 years
Again, the SEC and SEC-W was much more difficult in 2005-2010 than in 2000-2004.
This post was edited on 1/7/11 at 10:01 am
Posted on 1/7/11 at 9:59 am to GeauxTigersLee
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Disagree. Saban is one of the reasons that LSU is a power house program today. Problem is the anti-Miles crowd want another Saban and that's not going to happen. Just because Miles isn't Saban doesn't mean he's not a great coach. Is he quite as good as Saban - no, but Saban is probably the best coach in college football....and Miles is still 2-2 against him.
Head to head record is a little overated dont you think? LSU was a powerhouse and Bama wasn't.
Could Miles do what Saban has done? By that I mean going to 2 teams that have had losing seasons and win National Titles with each and doing it in the toughest conference in the country?
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:00 am to Choctaw
the conference isn't weaker, ace.
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:01 am to Choctaw
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Saban won 2 SEC West titles and 2 SEC championships in a much weaker conference.
Miles has won 2 SEC West titles and 1 SEC championship in a much tougher conference....and also has more wins and a higher winning percentage.
And Saban had to build LSU to where it is....came in and did what he did with a losing program....surely that has to be included right?
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:01 am to WHATASHAME
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Why doesn't he have suiters every year or at least when there is a major college HC vacancy?
The same reason UM, Brown,Saban, Stoops,and Carroll weren't contacted every time there was a major opening in college over the past decade. They are the highest paid coaches in America at terrific football schools. Other than the pull of one's alma mater there's not much that could coax any of those guys to take a pay cut for a lateral move.
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:01 am to Topwater Trout
quote:2010 disagrees with you. 2009 might as well if a certain interception was called correctly on the field.
LSU was a powerhouse and Bama wasn't.
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:04 am to GeauxTigersLee
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2010 disagrees with you. 2009 might as well if a certain interception was called correctly on the field.
so throw out 2007 b/c LSU was a powerhouse and Bama wasn't....correct? Shouldn't Saban be given a fair amount of time to get on same level playing field as Miles to compare them head to head?
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:06 am to Topwater Trout
quote:The main problem is that everyone wants to compare Miles to Saban. Saban is arguably the best college coach in the country, but he is not coming back to LSU and LSU isn't going to find another coach like him. For the Miles-haters, this is becoming like Bear Bryant was at Alabama....no one will ever live up to his expectations (regardless of the W/L record).
Could Miles do what Saban has done?
This post was edited on 1/7/11 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:17 am to GeauxTigersLee
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For the Miles-haters
I am not a Miles hater FTR.
I just think he gets too much credit for being a great coach from Miles lovers. LSU has top 5 talent and wins with it.....couldn't alot of coaches accomplish this?
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:27 am to Topwater Trout
quote:In the SEC with playing Florida (HC with 2 NC) and Bama (HC with 2 NC) every year. Now with an ex-NFL coach in Petrino, another HC with a potential NC on the line in Chizik, and a coordinator with 1 NC and another NC appearance. Honestly, I'm not sure another coach would have the success that Miles has had.
LSU has top 5 talent and wins with it.....couldn't alot of coaches accomplish this?
I think Muschamp at Florida will go along way to determining how successful another coach will be playing against the strength of the SEC that's only improved by leaps and bounds since the early 2000s.
Everyone forgets too easily that the SEC was a 1-2 team conference in the late 90s and early 2000s with Florida and Tennessee being the top teams. Now, every team seems to be competitive. Even Ole Miss is making it to Cotton Bowls. Arkansas in a BCS bowl. 10 bowl eligible teams.
This post was edited on 1/7/11 at 10:28 am
Posted on 1/7/11 at 10:29 am to GeauxTigersLee
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In the SEC with playing Florida (HC with 2 NC) and Bama (HC with 2 NC) every year. Now with an ex-NFL coach in Petrino, another HC with a potential NC on the line in Chizik, and a coordinator with 1 NCs and another NC appearance. Honestly, I'm not sure they'd have the success that he's had. I think Muschamp at Florida will go along way to determining how successful another coach will be playing against the strength of the SEC that's only improved by leaps and bounds since the early 2000s.
Everyone forgets too easily that the SEC was a 1-2 team conference in the late 90s and early 2000s with Florida and Tennessee being the top teams. Now, every team seems to be competitive. Even Ole Miss is making it to Cotton Bowls. Arkansas in a BCS bowl. 10 bowl eligible teams.
Thes greatest coaches and others say that great players make a coach. Give Saban Vandys players and he wouldn't be as successful.
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