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Didn't mike Shula have two ten-win seasons before getting fired?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:17 am
Where was the emotion for him?
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 11:21 am
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Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:23 am to dstone12
nope. 4-9, 6-6, 10-2, 6-6.
13-19 in SEC play
13-19 in SEC play
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:28 am to AreJay
Worth noting that was under probation
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:45 am to Mr Gardoki
It's also worth noting that poor MIke didn't even get credit for that one 10-win season. Anyone that was following college football at the time knew that was all Joe Kines and the senior-laden Defense. Shula was in charge of the offense, which was awful.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:03 pm to dstone12
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Where was the emotion for him?
I remember it vividly. There were tons of idiots that wanted to keep Shula. There was a mass exodus from the Scout Bama board because the fig moderator banned anyone who was critical of Shula. Shula was not a good head coach.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 12:08 pm to bamafan1001
I think your missing the point.
Bama fans a full of it when they defend Miles. Bama did worse to Shula.
Bama fans a full of it when they defend Miles. Bama did worse to Shula.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:20 pm to MoreOrLes
Im not defending Miles. Im glad LSU kept him because he is an average coach. That said, Shula was much worse.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:25 pm to MoreOrLes
Shula never even sniffed winning the West. Never beat Auburn. Got blown out in his 10 win season. Never recruited well and honestly was terrible with media and boosters. That stage was too big for him. Comparing that to Miles is apples and oranges.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:48 pm to MoreOrLes
Gene Stalling would be more accurate. Won a NC. Won the West. Had the same kind of offense but didn't recruit well. The AD at the time was displeased with Stallings last year win total and told him so. Stallings told him to find someone better.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:49 pm to MoreOrLes
Shula wouldn't have lasted two years at LSU considering they've been trying to run Miles off every year since 2008. Additionally, the same fans ran Saban into the dirt the year AFTER he won a national title. And talk about horrible offenses, there was a long conference stretch in 2005, where Bama only scored two offensive touchdowns. That dude would've been a dead man walking at LSU.
Shula was garbage and well over half of the Bama retards wanted him retained and argued to the death that he was a "great coach". Great coaches do not post a 1-12 record vs your three main rivals (his lone win coming against Fulmer's worst team in a fieldgoal battle). Great coaches don't allow your instate rival to own you in recruiting. Smart coaches don't ruin seasons by playing their best players in the fourth-quarter of blowouts, only to see them fall to season ending injuries. Funny, the Bama fans who were willing to sell their daughters into sex slavery just to grant Shula a few more seasons are suddenly now the biggest Saban fans.
Shula was garbage and well over half of the Bama retards wanted him retained and argued to the death that he was a "great coach". Great coaches do not post a 1-12 record vs your three main rivals (his lone win coming against Fulmer's worst team in a fieldgoal battle). Great coaches don't allow your instate rival to own you in recruiting. Smart coaches don't ruin seasons by playing their best players in the fourth-quarter of blowouts, only to see them fall to season ending injuries. Funny, the Bama fans who were willing to sell their daughters into sex slavery just to grant Shula a few more seasons are suddenly now the biggest Saban fans.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 1:51 pm to dstone12
The emotion was nullified when a 9-win Alabama team got beat so bad that Auburn's fanbase went wild with bumper stickers.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 2:23 pm to BradPitt
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Shula was garbage and well over half of the Bama retards wanted him retained and argued to the death that he was a "great coach". Great coaches do not post a 1-12 record vs your three main rivals (his lone win coming against Fulmer's worst team in a fieldgoal battle). Great coaches don't allow your instate rival to own you in recruiting. Smart coaches don't ruin seasons by playing their best players in the fourth-quarter of blowouts, only to see them fall to season ending injuries. Funny, the Bama fans who were willing to sell their daughters into sex slavery just to grant Shula a few more seasons are suddenly now the biggest Saban fans.
Unfortunately this was true. There is a certain number of people out there everywhere who are more interested in being on a self perceived high horse where they can insult others than actually being right on an issue.
When there is talk of firing a coach, those who are in favor of keeping the coach always operate from self perceived moral position on an ivory tower and everyone in favor of change is "irrational." The fans who were throwing insults at those wanting Shula gone are the same ones now on the first car of the Saban train. I dont recall a day of Finebaum where all those people called in and admitted they were wrong about Shula.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:37 pm to dstone12
No, he didn't. Then Bama got Saban. Please don't compare that situation to the goat frick that just happened to LSU.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 4:46 pm to dstone12
He had one winning season in 4 years that happened to be a 10-2 year. Shula, the pro style offensive minded coach, had a 3rd round draft pick at QB yet managed to produce point totals of 13, 6, 17, 13,18 and 13 against the last 6 power 5 opponents that season.
Against cupcakes that team scored 26, 30, and 35.
Shula's offenses were horrible. His recruiting skills were mediocre, and his motivational skills were non existent.
His biggest career win was over a blowout over Florida in Urban Meyer's first game against a team with a pulse. Shula injured his teams best player in that game throwing deep to him up 31-3 in the 4th quarter ending his career.
His only rivalry win was a 6-3 win thanks to a fluke fumble touchback at home against a 5-6 Tennessee team.
His first year, though coming into very difficult circumstances late, he managed to take a 10-3 team and lose to Northern Illinois and Hawaii while blowing a 3 TD lead late to Arkansas and giving up a 4th and 23 in OT to lose to Tennessee.
Against cupcakes that team scored 26, 30, and 35.
Shula's offenses were horrible. His recruiting skills were mediocre, and his motivational skills were non existent.
His biggest career win was over a blowout over Florida in Urban Meyer's first game against a team with a pulse. Shula injured his teams best player in that game throwing deep to him up 31-3 in the 4th quarter ending his career.
His only rivalry win was a 6-3 win thanks to a fluke fumble touchback at home against a 5-6 Tennessee team.
His first year, though coming into very difficult circumstances late, he managed to take a 10-3 team and lose to Northern Illinois and Hawaii while blowing a 3 TD lead late to Arkansas and giving up a 4th and 23 in OT to lose to Tennessee.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 5:25 pm to bamafan1001
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Unfortunately this was true. There is a certain number of people out there everywhere who are more interested in being on a self perceived high horse where they can insult others than actually being right on an issue. When there is talk of firing a coach, those who are in favor of keeping the coach always operate from self perceived moral position on an ivory tower and everyone in favor of change is "irrational." The fans who were throwing insults at those wanting Shula gone are the same ones now on the first car of the Saban train. I dont recall a day of Finebaum where all those people called in and admitted they were wrong about Shula.
Now what does this remind me of?.....I just can't put my finger on it.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:21 pm to geauxjo
I respected Shula for taking a difficult job under possibly the worst circumstances imaginable. I never hated him but it was definitely time for him to go. No question. I would imagine this is how the vast majority of LSU fans are towards Miles.
I was actually more upset with the circumstances surrounding Bill Curry's treatment and departure from Alabama. I still think it reflects worse on Bama than it does on Curry.
I was actually more upset with the circumstances surrounding Bill Curry's treatment and departure from Alabama. I still think it reflects worse on Bama than it does on Curry.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:05 pm to bamaatlsu
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Anyone that was following college football at the time knew that was all Joe Kines and the senior-laden Defense. Shula was in charge of the offense, which was awful
Hmmmmmm
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:21 pm to rolltide32
For any Bama/Panthers fans, has Shula's offense improved? Does he deserve merit for the Panthers 11-0 record so far and the huge improvement in Cam's play? Is he now a good OC?
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:13 pm to Upperdecker
Shula also spoiled the players and didn't understand discipline.
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:18 pm to Upperdecker
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Does he deserve merit for the Panthers 11-0 record so far and the huge improvement in Cam's play? Is he now a good OC?
I wouldn't give him too much credit. They play calling isn't very creative. Cam was a stud out of the gate and has developed over the years like you would expect any top QB to with experience.
Shula is probably an above average QB coach and an average OC in the NFL. His basic vanilla offense works better in the NFL than in college football.
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