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Did the defensive performance of Houston make you second guess

Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:09 am
Posted by Milesahead
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
692 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:09 am
Opinions on Herman vary but they are typically based upon what he brings to the offensive side. Last night, his undermanned defense basically shut down what was regarded as the top offense in college football. Does this make you consider him more strongly or do you consider it non consequential?
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:10 am to
A little more but that does not tip the scale enough. Jimbo with Aranda >>>>>> other HC/DC combinations.
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:10 am to
Houston all season has had one of the best defense in the G5.

His DC is also proven to be legit.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4854 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Opinions on Herman vary but they are typically based upon what he brings to the offensive side. Last night, his undermanned defense basically shut down what was regarded as the top offense in college football. Does this make you consider him more strongly or do you consider it non consequential?


I think Herman is just a football genius. The offense Louisville runs is similar to what he runs at Houston. I think Herman walks in the coaching office and figures out ways to make his TEAM better. Not just one side of the ball or the other.

My God him and Aranda together would be insanity.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:13 am to
as Jackson goes Louisville goes. it appears that UH's defense is not as undermanned as you think.

Jackson's pretty much a one man team; those kind of teams rarely win titles.
Posted by 7nette
Member since Nov 2015
4909 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:15 am to
It looked like Louisville wasn't prepared for a team to come after him like that, they probably assume most teams would try to sit back and contain him.
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
31166 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:15 am to
Herman has been the best candidate this search all along, and is once in a generational, to sleep this hire in going for TAF buddies old LSU OC or River Parish Recruiting Giant/DL Guru, would be a mistake of huge proportions..

And that's even with the recognition of Jimbo as a Natty Title HC and yearly 10 win guy, and O as an solid winner at USC/LSU with elite DL coaching, recruiting, and motivating...

Herman is just that bright a star!
Posted by Milesahead
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
692 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:13 pm to
So we have 1) proven DC, 2) not under maned, and 3) new approach to coaching against Louisville as reasons for their success last night. So does this mean he 1) recognizes and hires good coaches, 2) recruits above his head, and 3) is willing to play outside the box to achieve favorable results?

I am not investing my time to look it up but I think it is safe to say his coaching and recruiting budget is less than it would he with most P5 schools. He "out coached" Petrino when other prime time coaches didn't. He shut down a Michael Vick/Cam Newton type talent; we have precedent for one player in college football dominating entire seasons. Before this game, national pundits spoke of their desire to see if even Bama could slow Louisville...but Houston found a way to make it happen with much less time than a playoff matchup would have afforded.
I don't know that Herman is the best choice but if anyone pretends he shouldn't be in the same conversation as anyone else outside of Satan, Harbaugh, and Meyer, they are simply haters denying what results have si far proven.

ETA: auto correct changed Saban but I prefer their choice
This post was edited on 11/18/16 at 12:14 pm
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10313 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:30 pm to
No I starting second guessing him in a negative way after losing to SMU. The Navy loss didn't sway me much because Navy is a pretty good team. The win has swayed me back to being a Herman supporter.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25696 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 12:40 pm to
Herman is an offensive coach for f*cks sake. He has very little to do with defense. I don't see why some of this is hard to comprehend with some of you. The games they lost they gave up 70 points in both games. Herman would be a great get as head coach.
Posted by Milesahead
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
692 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:49 pm to
Your point seems to lack an edge. Is a head coach exonerated from poor performance on the field if it is on a particular side of the ball? Is he not accountable for his coordinators? If he couldn't field a competitive defense, would you want him at LSU? Take a deep breath, collect yourself, and reconsider how you express yourself. And be happy.
Posted by jamalsdeck
Member since Jul 2016
2818 posts
Posted on 11/18/16 at 11:55 pm to
It just goes to show even though he's an offensive HC he has his teams prepared in all phases to beat superior teams. We need that so much. They took it to OU's O too and FSU

Guy is a tremendous coach and we'd be so blessed to have him.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25696 posts
Posted on 11/19/16 at 1:12 am to
quote:

Is a head coach exonerated from poor performance on the field if it is on a particular side of the ball?


If he is a coach with an offensive background he won't have much if any input on defensive plays, or at least he shouldn't.

quote:

Is he not accountable for his coordinators?


Houston isn't a school that's willing to fork over huge amounts of cash to get a top notch D.C. Hell, Miles can thank the TAF for forking over enough money to keep elite D.C.'s here to carry the load for his crappy offenses and pad his winning %. Look at 2008 for example.

quote:

If he couldn't field a competitive defense, would you want him at LSU?


We already have a competitive defensive staff to go along with the talent. And as long as LSU is willing to pay for top notch coaches they will always get top notch coaches. He just merely has to get the offense going where we can get the most out of our talent, something Miles couldn't do.


And it is time for a screen name change. Just throwing that out there champ.
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