re: crowton's going nowhere

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absolutely, this is why CEO's like Donald Trump should be Athletic Director's...they would recognize the storm coming and do something about it immediately...it's just business
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How many times have Trump and his businesses declared bankruptcy over risky decisions?

any new info in this thread?

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any new info in this thread?

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is the OP reliable at all about info? I havent seen him really post much

I've seen in numerous places that JJ's stats are comparable to MF. Has anyone looked at 3rd down efficiency? We don't seem to be able to sustain drives and our number of plays for a game is scary low.

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how the hell did this end up a 7 page thread

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i found this odd as well, i think it took off close to as fast as BP's thread.

LSUMafia, ApexTiger, moneyg and several others are all making great points, IMO.

If we had a great O-line we should be able to TELL the defense what hole we're running through and STILL do it successfully. There is NO DOUBT that great D/O-line play makes you better on both sides of the ball regardless of playcalling. That being said, Crowton didn't call plays to help "hide" the glaring O-line problem. Most OC's at least TRY to call plays to counter that problem. We had an obvious O-line issue yet he continued to call the same running plays all year long.

Considering our O-line had something to do with hindering JJ's progression, it isnt like Crowton couldnt have reached deep in his Playcalling Bible and set us up with an offensive scheme every week to alleviate it with misdirections, quick slants/etc (anything that helps cover the O-line problems and JJ's inexperience). It isn't like we didnt have the players to be able to put in such a scheme. That is an example of one of Crowtons Achille's Heels -doesnt utilize the talent thats available. We also see another example of that with the lack of touches and limited use of Rus Shepard when he actually was in the game. I watched the South Carolina game this past weekend and saw Spurrier had one of his true freshman DB's (who was a duel threat QB in high school) playing QB for a drive during the Clemson game, and he threw the ball! That was his first stint at QB the whole year.

Also, someone mentioned that the O-line didnt get the call in time to get set and execute their part of the play. I also have to agree with this in at least some cases, which correlates with another problem Crowton's offenses are known to have -confusion in the offense, too much time wasted to get set.

Yet again, another big problem Crowton's offenses have after the first year is turnovers -which we saw plenty of last year. Even if it was our QB's fault, it still points back to Crowton. He's the QB coach. It's HIS job to recognize those problems and adjust accordingly.

There is only one QB that he can actually be given full credit for developing to become a great college player. So I would have to question his developing skills. I can't see the untimely use of the 5-WR set and a lot of his play calling/lack thereof as helpful in the QB's developement.

The numbers DO show that he either gets worse, OR DC's figure him out within a couple of years.
If we had an O-line we could almost "will" our way to a TD most of the time, no matter the call. But its times like these that we truely needed some adjustments to help out with our weak O-line/inexperienced QB, and it never materialized. It was Crowton's responsibility, and he failed miserably -as he did last year with J. Lee. Unfortunately, this is a trend. And it will continue.

I would prefer not to wait till we have another obvious weakness in our offense to have to work around, and still be looking at Crowton for the answers, BEFORE we replace him. I say let's fix the O-line, indeed. AND we fix the OC problem, too, just in case we run into another weakness in the future and have to depend on Crowton to bail us out. History shows in the long run, he isn't the answer. Not to mention we all got to witness this first hand.

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Your damn right it's hard to call successful running plays, when you spend your time practicing shotgun four and five wide all week long

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you do know that crowton is a spread guy, right?

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how the hell did this end up a 7 page thread; the OP didn't seems to post anything more than his personal opinion

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it's all over the premium sites, but it can't be discussed in depth b/c that would be posting pay-site info

I'm aware of the shotgun as a tool for getting the QB more time to read progressions.

You honestly think JJ did this during the course of this season?

You saw evidence of him doing anything outside of the primary play call?

It is my opinion that he stared the primary option and if it wasn't there, no one helped him out, and he held the ball staring down the field, or belatedly tucked and tentatively ran.

Nobody respected our fakes all season long and we never made them pay. Our rollouts always had to be to the right side, because JJ could not roll left and get set to wind up and throw in time.

Our gameplan against Florida was a total surrender. I would have been more satisified with a forfeit. The offensive staff should have been arrested for impersonation and theft after that game.

I understand the limitations of our O-line, but I differ in how we attempted to overcome their shortcomings. Lack of preparation and total disorganization. Prior to and during all games, possibly excluding Auburn and Tulane.

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you do realize crowton is a shotgun-basesd spread guy, right?

as he's been OC we've moved from jimbo's offense to his offense, which is why we run so much from the shotgun

our OL was recruited and developed to be lighter and quicker for the spread-option (which crowton sucks at scheming/calling)