re: crowton's going nowhere

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mine is of one that does not have much confidence in his ability to get us over the hump.

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And for $3.7 mil plus one of the top three or so highest paid staffs in cfb you certainly should.

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It was said that they think Miles will instruct Crowton to greatly diminish the playbook, thereby giving JJ a better opportunity to progress with fewer plays to learn.

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So what you are saying is, we will be even more predictable on offense than this year?

How is that going to work out for ya?

I call bull!

I am not saying JJ isn't part of the problem, but I can tell you that the play calling and JJ not knowing a play to the TE or simply roll outs and fake bubble screens I could coach up in a week

Give me a Break! Crowton=Figured out by SEC DC's..

I think the bigger concern here is that Miles has made bone-head hiring decisions almost as much as he's made good ones.

I don't count almost any of the initial offensive hires as his, because the BOS and TAF basically forced him to keep Jimbo and the others. Porter was the only one on offense and he's honestly only great as a recruiter and average as a coach.

On Defense, he got lucky with Pelini and Karl Dunbar. If not for those two, our defense would've utterly sucked. Our DBs (Pelini not Mallory and see 2008 to see Mallory's DB development skills) and DL were what won us games and shut down other teams. LBers had been awful overall and regressed normally under Peveto.

Once Dunbar left our DL talent and play went to shite because Lane couldn't and/or wouldn't coach. Another recruiter. The Malveto experience. Robinson has done well at special teams coach, but has been no help at DL.

On offense in 2007, he brought Studs, Crowton, and McCarthy.

WR hasn't impressed me with McCarthy outside of LaFell (who is still inconsistent. WR blocking has gotten worse every year.

OL has gotten worse each season and been pathetic since Henson left this season. Studs was a bust.

And OC/QB coach in Crowton. Great his first year, but destroyed Lee and his career basically, had Hatch as a potential starter, and JJ has not really developed that much from his starts last year. Playcalling issues, procedure/delay of game penalties every year, and an ability to kill any drives.

These teams have survived on talent a lot. While Miles has hired recruiters, we got lots of good to great players. Problem is they almost never recruit by need and its showing now.

Look at this year, we need DT depth badly (3 maybe 4 scholarship DTs left next year) and we are only in on 2 both of which are not ready to play as Freshmen, one of which is expected to be moved to OL and the other is a real serious project that no one even knew about.

Moral of the story is Les' hires have been more miss than hit in his time at LSU.

According to the chat room, Crowton is not leaving

(Of course everything is speculation)

My main concerns, assuming Crowton comes back is the players losing confidence in the coaching staff and recruiting down the stretch. There are alot of soft commitments from what I gather. Alot has to do with an LSU offense that couldn't even crack the top 100 schools in total offense this past season. All eyes will be on Miles as he decides the fate of an increasingly unproductive and unpopular offensive staff. If Crowton remains and the offense sputters again next season then Miles could really be in trouble.

So every offensive coach should go outside of our QB coach? That has to be the funniest thing that I've heard all night.

I thought this thread was about no changes being made in our offensive coordination.

Porter and McCarthy leaving are not going qualify, IMO.

You feel that someone saying Miles can't turn things around is a ridiculous statement? I just don't see how without any changes you feel he can turn the offense around.

The line was horrible. Barksdale is the only returning senior, and he showed no improvement, possibly regressed. Toliver is our only returning receiver with more than 10 catches, and he was shut out the last 3 games. We have 250 yards rushing out of our returning backs, maybe.

You must think the light that is going to come on for Jefferson will resemble something close to a supernova.

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So every offensive coach should go outside of our QB coach? That has to be the funniest thing that I've heard all night.

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1) We have no QB coach
2) Yeah our entire offensive staff should go

McCarthy - Dirty
Stud - The OLine has gotten worse and worse
Crowton - 106th in the nation
Porter - Gone
The Last Don - The frick does he do?

The play calling was awful people!

Freakin Awful!

107th in the nation with top 5 talent!

Crowton had 12 games to get it figured out!

For 600k a year, I think he needs to be canned...

That's 50k per game to be 107th in the nation....many people don't make that all year long...

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Hell yes. Do it, take the PR hit, throw a lot of money at Brian Kelly and move on.

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Cash, no disrespect.

But this is mistake, red herring.

There is no PR hit in firing someone that everyone in the country believes is a joke. 9-3 or not. Everyone in the country understands that LSU could easily be 6-6 right now with losses to MSU, Georgia and Arkansas.

The difference in those wins was not coaching but talent and luck.

Put on top of that Crowton staying and Porter and Mccarthy going, FIRE THIS CLOWN NOW!!!!!!!!!!

LSU is a university.

It would be justified in firing Les MIles after any insane press conference he does.

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107th in the nation with top 5 talent!

Crowton had 12 games to get it figured out!

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It's about the OL. If you want to blame Crowton for that as the OC then fair enough.

But, to think that the majority of our problems are because of play calling is foolish IMO.