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re: Coach O salary

Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by SugarBeauxl
Chicago
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:28 pm to
We have got to keep the salary structure of the staff within limits. Crowton and Chavis need to be the highest paid and O's salary in line with other coaches -- I read where Moffit make about $190k a year. If you overpay for one guy then the rest of the staff gets pissed.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:28 pm to
don't forget we were undefeated in regulation last year
Posted by SugarBeauxl
Chicago
Member since Nov 2008
1079 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:42 pm to
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all it took was for the stars to align for the first ever two loss team to win the BCS


And all it took was for UCLA to beat a 30 point favored USC for Florida to get a chance to play tOSU, and a tremendous lucky run of upsets and BCS computers for us to get into the 2003 game, not to mention the luck of Auburn to go undefeated and never get a chance to play. Give Miles a break, you don't draw plays in the dirt on the sideline and win as much as Miles has. Chavis was the key hire -- there are several DL coaches on the board who would be a giant upgrade from Lane.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:43 pm to
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All it took was for the stars to allign allowing for the first time ever a two loss team in the BCSCG.


He won a National Championship. You can try to spin it if you want.



Posted by Joe Mantegna
knoxville
Member since Oct 2007
9718 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:47 pm to
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All it took was for the stars to allign allowing for the first time ever a two loss team in the BCSCG.


Well if we werent in that game there was a good chance that was gonna happen anyway, oklahoma, usc, georgia all had 2 losses so your point is moot, those teams wouldnt of lost to Ohio State either.
Posted by Stevo
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2004
12593 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:51 pm to
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Give Miles a break, you don't draw plays in the dirt on the sideline and win as much as Miles has.


some people just don't like Miles, and there's nothing you can do or write that will change that. The sooner you can deal with this, the more you'll enjoy the Rant.
Posted by SugarBeauxl
Chicago
Member since Nov 2008
1079 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 10:56 pm to
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Some people just don't like Miles......... the sooner you deal with this, you can enjoy the rant.


Stevo, good advice and appreciated. I just remember 40 years of mediocrity and find it amazing that many rantards don't realize how good we have had it for 8 years - and a chance to continue to be good.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37645 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:16 pm to
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. I just remember 40 years of mediocrity and find it amazing that many rantards don't realize how good we have had it for 8 years - and a chance to continue to be good


Or we remember it and we don't want to go back.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37645 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:23 pm to
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Well if we werent in that game there was a good chance that was gonna happen anyway, oklahoma, usc, georgia all had 2 losses so your point is moot, those teams wouldnt of lost to Ohio State either.


Exactly, we were the beneficiary of a fluke year. Miles' on the field results were basically no better or worse than in his first two years.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:33 pm to
needed some help to get into the BCSNCG saban's year too

the system is what it is you can't discount a championship because flukey things happened
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37645 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:36 pm to
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the system is what it is you can't discount a championship because flukey things happened


I'm not discounting the championship. I'm discounting the notion that it was a brilliant coaching performance that got us there.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:40 pm to
I'd at least credit him for getting the team refocused to beat UT coming off a devastating loss, minus your starting qb, and all the coaching distractions then blowing out your opponent in the NC.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:52 pm to
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I'm discounting the notion that it was a brilliant coaching performance that got us there.


No, you're making a much larger point than that.

You are saying that Miles isn't worth his salary...and based on how much you think he's worth, isn't worthy of this job.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37645 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:57 pm to
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You are saying that Miles isn't worth his salary...


Max said that, not me. However I am closer to his camp than yours.

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and based on how much you think he's worth, isn't worthy of this job.


We could do better.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37645 posts
Posted on 12/29/08 at 11:58 pm to
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I'd at least credit him for getting the team refocused to beat UT coming off a devastating loss, minus your starting qb, and all the coaching distractions then blowing out your opponent in the NC.


I'll give him that.

UT was the third best team in the east though last year.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
163153 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:01 am to
Could we do better? Maybe so

But you're talking about tossing out a proven winner....ask AU how that worked out.

You'd be banking on the right guy to be available, has the desire to come here, and trust our powers that be to not frick it up.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:01 am to
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Max said that, not me. However I am closer to his camp than yours.


It's pretty clear how you feel about Miles. I don't know why you are being vague about it.

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We could do better.


All but one team in the nation could do better.

That's the great thing about LSU. We can win based on what LSU brings to the table without having to have the single best coach out there.

Miles is a very good coach. He's not perfect.

What Miles is doing with the program as a whole however could very well be the best job anyone is doing in the nation...it's certainly near the top.
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37645 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:10 am to
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It's pretty clear how you feel about Miles. I don't know why you are being vague about it.


I'm not being vague. I have never been a big fan of Miles. I feel he is an average coach. I just don't want you to put words in my mouth.

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We could do better.




All but one team in the nation could do better.


So you agree with me.

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We can win based on what LSU brings to the table without having to have the single best coach out there.


I agree, we can win. But to compete with Meyer at Florida and Saban at Alabama we need and deserve a top ten coach.

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Miles is a very good coach. He's not perfect.


agree to disagree

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What Miles is doing with the program as a whole however could very well be the best job anyone is doing in the nation...it's certainly near the top.


If he fills out the staff properly and wins the West next year, I can be swayed.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63710 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:13 am to
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So you agree with me.


I agree with your meaningless statement. As soon as you try to make any point with that statement, I'll likely disagree.

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I agree, we can win. But to compete with Meyer at Florida and Saban at Alabama we need and deserve a top ten coach.


LSU won a NC last year...and beat Meyer and Florida. And, all things considered Miles is definitely a top 10 coach.

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If he fills out the staff properly and wins the West next year, I can be swayed.


frontrunner
Posted by Cash
Vail
Member since Feb 2005
37645 posts
Posted on 12/30/08 at 12:21 am to
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LSU won a NC last year...and beat Meyer and Florida.


I'm not going to go over the fluke year argument again. As for Florida this has been gone over and over many times. We all know they were down big time last year.

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And, all things considered Miles is definitely a top 10 coach.


Not that rivals is the end all of rankings, but how many of the teams of the top 10-15 guys listed here would trade for Miles?
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If he fills out the staff properly and wins the West next year, I can be swayed.




frontrunner


Let's not start questioning each others fandom. I am not so close minded as to not admit if I am wrong, and believe me I hope I am.
This post was edited on 12/30/08 at 12:24 am
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