re: Can Someone Please Explain the Lincoln Riley Fascination?

Riley is on of the best in the country.Just about any program would listen if we wanted to talk. Who’s better other than Saban, Dabo, Day and Urban ( even though he’s NFL for now).

Air Raid coaches can install their offense in a week. After that it’s just repetition
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Here is Mumme, who has placed the Air Raid at seven schools.

“We can teach the whole thing in three workouts,” said Mumme,

It says a lot when truth gets downvotes on here. Read a book, guys

Racks my brain how ppl can’t differentiate the differences between offense n defense on this board.
Ever wonder why it’s always an offensive minded HC from a small school n ppl say “He doesn’t care about defense”
He does, but 5 star Line backers don’t go to UAB so while he can scheme guys open offensively it’s a little tougher to have a great defense without great players

Defense is more talent based than offense.
3 star corners can’t cover 5 star wrs no matter how much you coach em up.

Exactly.

How could anyone not want a HC that has proven to always have his QBs in Heisman contention?

How? How could you not want that? Did we not enjoy Burrow being the QB? Do some people really not want top QBs always at LSU?

His defenses would be better at LSU on talent alone.

It's mind boggling. I rather have great QB play if it meant less defensive play. Last night I had no hope with Max. We could and should have won that game.

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Racks my brain how ppl can’t differentiate the differences between offense n defense on this board.
Ever wonder why it’s always an offensive minded HC from a small school n ppl say “He doesn’t care about defense”
He does, but 5 star Line backers don’t go to UAB so while he can scheme guys open offensively it’s a little tougher to have a great defense without great players

Defense is more talent based than offense.
3 star corners can’t cover 5 star wrs no matter how much you coach em up.

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People are shitting on Riley for 2019 while shitting on Aranda for 2019 as well.

And their savior is a guy who hasn't made the playoffs in forever, is an offensive guru who can't recruit QBs worth a shite anymore, and who relies on the most expensive DCs in CFB for his typical 2-4 loss season. All at the price of highest paid coach in CFB.

*ETA: and as this thread shows, they have to lie to make his accomplishments look great compared to the actual top shelf candidates.

Dude loves jimbo over Riley lol

I’ll take Riley right now.

At a UF or LSU he would have a good defense

Jumbo is a good coach, but not for 100 mill

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People are shitting on Riley for 2019 while shitting on Aranda for 2019 as well.

And their savior is a guy who hasn't made the playoffs in forever, is an offensive guru who can't recruit QBs worth a shite anymore, and who relies on the most expensive DCs in CFB for his typical 2-4 loss season. All at the price of highest paid coach in CFB.

*ETA: and as this thread shows, they have to lie to make his accomplishments look great compared to the actual top shelf candidates.

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Riley's defenses don't concern you? I just want one person to address Riley's defenses. It's like pulling teeth.

You're big on recent history with Jimbo and having to fall back on that recency, so the defenses Riley's fielded since he's become HC have to be a concern.

I don't have a definite dog in the fight like many here do. I'm not a "Jimbo guy" or a "Lincoln guy." So many have planted their flags in a coach's camp acting as if their guy is the only viable. They all have pros and cons.

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Riley's defenses don't concern you? I

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As long as we're LSU (with our geographical advantage in recruiting and the SEC prestige)? No.

Riley is never going to be able to compete with an elite D in the Big12. Their week in, week out competition won't allow not having a big offense AND they have structural recruiting disadvantages. The SEC has gobbled up all the top talent (especially on D) and it's low key made CFB suck.

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I just want one person to address Riley's defenses. It's like pulling teeth.

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People have in this thread. It's a talent issue. It's just not possible to have an elite D at OU except here or there.

Same with Texas, too. At least until they make it to the SEC.

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You're big on recent history with Jimbo and having to fall back on that recency, so the defenses Riley's fielded since he's become HC have to be a concern.

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Riley is still making the playoffs. Jimbo isn't.

Riley is innovating. Jimbo is stuck using a dinosaur offense.

If we're going to throw a mega contract out, there are only 3 guys worth it: Saban, Riley, and Rhule. The only realistic option is possibly Riley.

Then you get into the Jimbo/Urban tier. Older coaches with past success but much less recently who have major red flags but who will demand top tier money/years.

Then you get into the Aranda, Napier, or Tucker tier.

People who are in the Jimbo camp assume we aren't rolling the dice with him when we are. My argument is that if you're rolling the dice, don't bet your life savings the rest of your life on it.

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Dave Aranda's defense at Baylor, with lesser talent, has been better than OU's. Oklahoma St has the #3 defense in the country, with lesser talent.

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It's possible for a Big12 D to have good rankings a year here or there. It's not possible consistently if that team has a top-shelf offense (just like how we were never going to have a top-1o D in 2019 based on counting stats)