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re: Bob stoops has been contacted

Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:38 pm to
Posted by JPLSU1981
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:38 pm to
You absolutely did. You actually used the words “originator” and “creator” … your words not mine

And yes, I was absolutely being a smartass…Replying to your post where you are basically calling everyone dumbasses.

I’m happy to have a rational discussion about any coach, but that ain’t gonna happen when someone posts “y’all are all ignorant and dumbasses and know nothing about football if you don’t agree with me on Coach X”…which is exactly what you did

Stoops has a great resume. Unquestionable. And Yes, I think it would be a terrible hire in 2021. But my problem with you really had little to do with Stoops and moreso your smartest guy in the room condescending attitude in making your case.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 4:48 pm
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:40 pm to
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Stoops has been out of coaching for 5 years. He's not coaching again.


He was coaching in the XFL last year. You think thats better than the LSU job?
Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:44 pm to
Not the Kentucky coach?
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:45 pm to
You need to Read whAt I wrote again.
I said Huepels offense and Riley’s offense... Not all of cfb. Who do you think josh huepel played for, and learned his offense from? What about Riley? They didn’t just out of thin air make up and create their offensive schemes. They learned the foundation somewhere (from Stoops, who actually learned it from Leach)) and then put in their own twist
And again lmao you need to go re read what I wrote if you think I called everyone a dumbass. I said everyone who rolls their eyes or acts like this would be a bad hire; are uninformed or don’t know cfb. And that statement is still true. You still haven’t replied with anything showing me or making me think that you aren’t uninformed about Stoops.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:46 pm to
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hate you motherfrickers that make me defend Mel Tucker
Agree. On record stating he wouldn’t be my first choice. But that’s mostly because I would like to see an offensive guy & that’s just, well, my opinion man.

Not the “Tennessee / Iceberg Meet Titanic” hire some have made it out to be.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28314 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:49 pm to
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uninformed or don’t know cfb.


And here we go again.

Don’t know what to tell you man. Just because you think you know everything about Bob Stoops doesn’t mean everyone else is uninformed

You obviously like Bob Stoops. Fair enough, I get it. At one time, he was absolutely considered one of the best coaches in CFB. Maybe he still is, no way to know after 5 years off. But I guess it’s possible.

I obviously feel he would be an awful hire at LSU in 2021. No coach has ever returned from a 5-year CFB hiatus to having success. It has never happened, not one single time. I don’t care what kind of offense or defense he runs or what role he played in 2010 in modernizing the game. Even at the peak of his success, he was widely known as “Big game Bob”….and that was at the PEAK of his success. Of course we all know Big Game Bob is not a compliment.

I’m not going to call you stupid, or a dumbass, or claim you are uninformed and don’t know CFB because you disagree with this. Like you did to everyone else. That was my issue with your post.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:00 pm
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 4:59 pm to
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And here we go again.


Lmao. Dude So using the word uninformed, in the exact way that the word was intended to be used, is insulting? Or acting “like the smartest guy in the room”?… Jesus our society is so doomed. Everyone is so soft.
Uninformed means you aren’t informed on a topic. Never have I seen it used as a synonym for dumbass…. And so far, even after all this back and forth you’ve yet to reply with any sort of fact based opinion or statement that shows and proves to me, that you are not uninformed. Heck even listing or mentioning the reasons you believe he wouldn’t be a good hire would be wonderful. But you have not even given one reason backing your opinion… and seeing that, I can only assume it means you are uninformed.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28314 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:03 pm to
5 years dude

Give me one example of a coach taking 5 years off of CFB and returning to the game to have success, and I’ll concede the argument to you. Just one example.

You keep asking for a detailed report on why not Stoops, and you are missing (or maybe not reading?) the biggest and most obvious piece.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:04 pm
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:03 pm to
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No coach has ever returned from a 5-year CFB hiatus to having success. It has never happened, not one single time.



Mack Brown would beg to differ….
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28314 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:04 pm to
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Mack Brown would beg to differ….


Okay. Lol

He actually hurts your argument, doesn’t hep it.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:05 pm
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:04 pm to
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Give me one example of a coach taking 5 years off of CFB and returning to the game to have success, and I’ll concede the argument to you. Just one example.


Look at what Mack brown has been able to do at fricken North Carolina. Now imagine the talent and resources and budget when on the scale of an LsU type program
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28314 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:10 pm to
I mean, you’re using Mack Brown now to support your argument for Bob Stoops.

Look, we’ll just have to agree to disagree. I’m fine with that.

You like Stoops at LSU, fine. I hate it. And Me - or anyone else - is not uninformed for not wanting a coach that has been out of CFB for 5 years…it’s a totally rational, logical reason for not wanting Stoops, whether it fits your opinion/agenda or not. “I know football and y’all don’t” doesn’t sit well with me.

Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:11 pm to
You don’t think that he’s been successful at NC? Granted it’s not success at an lsu level or whatever, but i would say for a basketball school what he’s done so far is pretty respectable. And IMO Stoops is an even better recruiter than Brown. Add in that LSU recruits itself, and Stoops could definitely bring success to LSU. Not to mention he’s wildly famous and known for recruiting really good offensive lineman and then building on that. A lot of our fans have been complaining and saying we need to overhaul or offensive line room/recruiting approach. He would check that off the list. I mean there’s multiple reasons why I think he’d be a good hire. Especially considering there’s not many coaches out there available that could top him. He’s experienced, proven successful, etc etc. the only flaw I would be weary of; or work into his contract if I was Woodward, would be some sort of stipulation that he had to groom someone and have a HCIW lined up.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28314 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:15 pm to
Mack used UNC for one more retirement payday, just as Stoops would be doing with us.

Probably too early to make a definitive call on the overall success of his stint at UNC, but as far as this season he’s got a roster and QB that should arguably be Top10 in an extremely manageable league and they’re unranked with 3 losses.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:44 pm
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:15 pm to
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I mean, you’re using Mack Brown now to support your argument for Bob Stoops.


Lmao! Dude holy shite smh… This is impossible with you man. You literally just said a statement, then went on to say “name someone that has done it, and I’ll concede” or whatever words you said; so I name a coach, and bam, you move the goalpost some more… it’s actually kind of starting to get funny…
Posted by oldskule
Down South
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:16 pm to
If it's Tucker, WOKE made the call!
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28314 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:17 pm to
I said with success…and no I would not call what Mack has done a success.

Actually this season they’ve been embarrassing. He has a roster and QB that arguably should be a Top10 team in an extremely manageable league. And they’re unranked with 3 losses, including a loss to lowly Florida State.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:44 pm
Posted by joe2679
Member since Nov 2015
626 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:25 pm to
Tequila Sunrise is clueless
Posted by SaDub225
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2021
870 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:27 pm to
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I said with success…and no I would not call what Mac has done a success. Actually this season they’ve been embarrassing. He has a roster and QB that arguably should be a Top10 team. And they’re unranked with 3 losses, including a loss to lowly Florida State.



You are a pro at moving the goal post, and at reading things only at a surface level in order to try and apply them to fit your narrative or belief. Name the last time North Carolina has been able to recruit like Mack is doing, name the last time they played in a major bowl game, name the last time anyone ever heard or talked about north Carolina football not basketball… if you take LSU fans ideas of successful and apply them to every single program in the country without taking things into consideration; then you would have only one team maybe you could call successful. (Bama)
Success is different from program to program. What Mack brown has done at UNC is successful for UNC.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28314 posts
Posted on 10/19/21 at 5:30 pm to
You’re basically saying Mack Brown is a good example of why Bob Stoops to LSU would work.

Yet again, agree to disagree.

By that logic, we should give Mack a look too?

Bob Stoops has been out of CFB for 5 years. If he was still at OU doing what Riley is currently doing, my opinion would absolutely be different. But he hasn’t been, he’s been out of the game for 5 years

You continue to ask for reasons against Stoops…and I continue to say 5 years…and for some reason you act like that’s not a very good/logical reason and totally outright dismiss that huge and totally relevant reason.
This post was edited on 10/19/21 at 5:47 pm
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