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re: Aranda is seriously lacking in recruiting

Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:39 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:39 pm to
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He’s not recruiting better or worse than anyone at Baylor

A couple years like this and he will break the 20s

Exactly. There isn't any evidence he'll make our recruiting slide from where it's at, especially if we win and send guys to the league.

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A couple years like this and he will break the 20s

Yup. Just like Briles.

His classes took a big jump after 2011's Heisman campaign for RG3 (and Baylor winning 10 games).
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:51 pm to
Dude you’re a Napier Stan…GTFO
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:54 pm to
I'm still waiting on him to tell me all these huge recruiting battles against real competition Napier has won as a head coach.

Earlier he argued some croots that went to Bama when he was a positional coach almost 10 years ago.
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 5:57 pm to


Yeah I saw him say in one thread Napier guarantees us Kirby level recruiting. Based on fricking what ? Oh local coaches like him? Yeah because locking down the state has been an issue
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 5:58 pm
Posted by OKtiger
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:00 pm to
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I'm still waiting on him to tell me all these huge recruiting battles against real competition Napier has won as a head coach.


Never even claimed that lmao
Posted by OKtiger
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:02 pm to
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Yeah I saw him say in one thread Napier guarantees us Kirby level recruiting. Based on fricking what ?


Napier’s all time recruits

Read the link dipshit. If you don’t think he would be elite recruiting the state of Louisiana and beyond, you’re a dumb sack of shite
This post was edited on 11/13/21 at 6:04 pm
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:05 pm to
weren’t you also the dumb frick that was adamant Chase was going to bust for opting out? You’re a fricking moron
Posted by OKtiger
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:06 pm to
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Exactly. There isn't any evidence he'll make our recruiting slide from where it's at


Uhhh power 5 program that is currently in the bottom half of recruiting rankings.

If Aranda is in the bottom half of the SEC in recruiting rankings, that will be a serious issue. Saying that it’s no big deal is fricking dumb
Posted by Curtis Lowe
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:07 pm to
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So Briles did have 3 years in the top 30 but otherwise Aranda's current 2021 ranking is within his common range. Certainly "within the same ballpark".


Briles was bringing in National Top 100 players at Baylor.

Aranda is not even in the competition for Top 100 players at this point in his career at Baylor. Can it happen in the future? To be determined.

Top 100 players are the small pool of players that LSU has to compete with the Sabans, Days, Dabos, Sarks, Rileys, Smarts and Fishers of the world.

Like I said in my previous post, I like Dave Aranda as a coach and wish him nothing but the best in his career. However, at this point in time he would be a risky hire for LSU from a recruiting standpoint.

Remember the mantra: "Recruiting is the lifeblood of college football success."

Hence, not in the same ballpark as Briles in recruiting at this point in time.
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:08 pm to
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weren’t you also the dumb frick that was adamant Chase was going to bust for opting out?


And I was wrong. I still chose him on my fantasy team. Can you admit that you’re a fricking retard when it comes to evaluating Aranda’s recruiting ability?

Or do you just want to go off topic more?
Posted by OKtiger
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:10 pm to
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weren’t you also the dumb frick that was adamant Chase was going to bust for opting out? You’re a fricking moron


And this is what you type after showing you direct evidence that Napier is, in fact, an elite recruiter
Posted by OKtiger
Tulsa, OK
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 6:11 pm to
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Like I said in my previous post, I like Dave Aranda as a coach and wish him nothing but the best in his career. However, at this point in time he would be a risky hire for LSU from a recruiting standpoint.


Don’t tell that to all of the posters on here who were huffing paint during the OU game today
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:02 pm to
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Briles was bringing in National Top 100 players at Baylor.

Then his classes must have been completely top heavy because they weren't significantly better than what Aranda is doing now.

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Top 100 players are the small pool of players that LSU has to compete with the Sabans, Days, Dabos, Sarks, Rileys, Smarts and Fishers of the world.

Ones we're much more likely to get due to our program's status and location.

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Remember the mantra: "Recruiting is the lifeblood of college football success."

And like I said earlier, are we assuming Aranda doesn't know this?

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Hence, not in the same ballpark as Briles in recruiting at this point in time.

Then explain the totality of Briles' classes and why he wasn't bringing them into higher overall tiers?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:07 pm to
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Don’t tell that to all of the posters on here who were huffing paint during the OU game today

Nobody is arguing Aranda is the best recruiter on earth.

It's just that he's not a bad recruiter and has Baylor around their historical average during their surge the past decade.

There's no real reason to think he'd negatively affect LSU's classes and he should be able to bring in our historical average class here, too. That's a really, really good class, and that's his current status. If he gets a little better we're talking top classes.

The only option with top tier recruiting as a HC is Jimbo. Napier has only shown that ability on a low level and Tucker is on Aranda's level (being at historical average for his program). Aranda is the superior coach to Jimbo, Tucker, and especially Napier.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:37 pm to
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Read the link dipshit. If you don’t think he would be elite recruiting the state of Louisiana and beyond, you’re a dumb sack of shite

Ok. Well here's Aranda's all time recruits. Looks just as good or better than Napier's
LINK
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 7:39 pm to
But Aranda wins anyway...
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:17 pm to
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Briles was bringing in National Top 100 players at Baylor.


After he won a little.

He wasn’t doing that before 2012-13

His best class was like 23-25 overall,

You have to really prove yourself to recruit Baylor
Posted by BayouCatFan
Member since Jul 2008
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:25 pm to
Arizona, who has won one game in two years, currently has commitments from more 4 stars than Aranda. He is prefect at a school like Baylor, but would be a disaster at LSU. At Baylor he can win because talent isnt as important due to him out scheming other coaches. In the SEC West you have to be able to out scheme AND out recruit to win on a consistent basis.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:29 pm to
And their class is ranked behind Baylor’s
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 11/13/21 at 8:47 pm to
I bet Napier, at 9-1, has fewer 4* players than Arizona, too.

It's weird how these guys are picking and choosing which metrics they want to apply to which candidates.
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