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Alright, so when are we going to hear something on the OC

Posted on 1/3/10 at 7:43 am
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 7:43 am
situation? ( I need to hear the words, "no changes, or yes we are looking for a new OC", from the HC, because I assume he is going to make a change )

If Crowton comes back, I am seriously lowering my expectations for next year, and will go on record as saying Miles tunure at LSU will end after next season if he doesn't' find the right OC for next year. LSU fans have tasted the top for several years, and we know our football... This isn't Elite dominate football anymore. 2 years in a row.

Teams have scouted Crowton's offense, and we can't execute well enough against teams that pretty much know what play is coming..

time for a radical change, no matter the costs, because if we don't change, expect the same result which will cost us even more money and suffering.

I am a positive poster, usually, but I am done with Gary Crowton. I support Les, he is our coach, but ....another 4 loss season next year and I am done with him too. And the schedule looks tough to me...so he will have to earn that 3.7 million.

108th in total offense with Elite offensive Talent at RB , LT, TE, and WR positions is criminal
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 7:49 am to
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so when are we going to hear something on the OC
situation?



we aren't
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:01 am to
If we arn't changing the OC, then I expect more suffering.

Just think about how important the UNC game next year is for Les Miles..

He drops that game, he will be officially 100% done at LSU IMHO from an overall fan support standpoint.

UNC is a decent team too, but LSU is a program that should handle UNC...but if we don't and Les starts at 0-1, when really the expectations every year are 10 or 11 wins...we have been looking forward to the 2010 and 2011 seasons for 2 years, due to the QB position depth, experience problems..

JJ will be Junior...that means he should have a big year
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:13 am to
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JJ will be Junior...that means he should have a big year


IF you really believe this, in your heart and mind, you are destined to be terribly disappointed. My hopes that Crowton is gone are rapidly diminishing, and if I am sitting in the stands in Atlanta watching JJ as starting QB, then a .500 season enters my mind right then. An offense with Crowton and JJ is a 100th ranked offense, even if they were both here for a decade.
Posted by SPEEDY
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:15 am to
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If we arn't changing the OC, then I expect more suffering.




and suffering you will be
Posted by MarlinMan
The BSL
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:48 am to
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Just think about how important the UNC game next year is for Les Miles.. He drops that game, he will be officially 100% done at LSU IMHO from an overall fan support standpoint.


and LSU will be a laughing stock during one of the best recruiting years in Louisiana history...

blame it on Alleva and the Administration for taking it !!!
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:50 am to
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if I am sitting in the stands in Atlanta watching JJ as starting QB, then a .500 season enters my mind right then.


JJ has improved with every game he has played IMO. you can tell he has the raw abilities and instincts to be an above average QB. his lack of a deep knowledge of schemes, the playbook and reading defense is based on 1) age/experience and 2) coaching and QB development. No. 1 will take it's course naturally just as it does with all college QBs. No. 2 should be addressed and addressed quickly. because the offensive coaches are terrible.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:52 am to
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and LSU will be a laughing stock


this is idiotic beyond words. one loss will turn an entire university into a laughing stock? after a decade of winning SEC titles and 2 NCs? give me a fricking break. take a trip back to early 90s and MAYBE you'd see a laughing stock of a program. until LSU has multiple losing seasons it will always get respect in the SEC. just maybe not from some of its own fans (i.e. - your dumbass).
This post was edited on 1/3/10 at 8:54 am
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 8:56 am to
I think we should take on OCC good teams...I think the fan base is sick of playing cup cakes in Tiger Stadium (see second half attendance).

The problem is, UNC is legit on Defense and it's a neutral field.

And with our Offensive whoas....it won't be easy to win.

I hate to say it, but I am more worried than excited about next year...

I hope I am flat wrong. and probably come next fall, I will be pumped and positive, because I love LSU so much.

I dream of seeing , JJ, RR, Ford, Ridely, Murphy, TT, Peterson and Shep on ESPN highlights every week...

We shall see


One thing I have noticed is we take too long for plays to develop, and we take too long getting set... Good offensive teams line up and move quickly
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:03 am to
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one loss will turn an entire university into a laughing stock


Seriously, you think people are pissed over just one loss.

quote:

this is idiotic beyond words

Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:03 am to
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The problem is, UNC is legit on Defense and it's a neutral field.

UNC is an AVERAGE ACC team ... LSU loses to UNC next year and Les may as well start packing, because the wheels will have officially come off the wagon.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:05 am to
so if LSU loses to UNC...

- LSU fans will officially be done with Les Miles
- LSU will finish no better than .500
- LSU will be a laughing stock in recruiting circles in Louisiana

Posted by MarlinMan
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Member since Sep 2007
2549 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:06 am to
coming off of 2 poorly coached seasons with all the talent in the world and then having a coach who is incompetent and getting paid $4 mill/year, my friends that pull for other SEC schools are laughing their arse of at LSU. Especially the Ole miss fans because they got to see his intelligence up close...

Sorry pal, but you are the moron who is buying his bullshite. Good luck you fricking sap !!!
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:10 am to
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Especially the Ole miss fans because they got to see his intelligence up close...


ironic, my Miss State friends are laughing at Ole Miss...
Posted by Icansee4miles
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Member since Jan 2007
32335 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:15 am to
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you can tell he has the raw abilities and instincts to be an above average QB


Quite to the contrary. I have no belief that he has the instincts to play the position at an above average level. In addition to having no "feel" for the position, his mechanics and arm strength are suspect.
Posted by Acreboy
Member since Nov 2005
38568 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:15 am to
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- LSU fans will officially be done with Les Miles
Ive been done fwiw
Posted by Prof Tiger
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
459 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:38 am to
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one loss will turn an entire university into a laughing stock?


Wow. OK, let me say it slow for you: (1) no one said anything about the entire university. Even the most outspoken rantards don't feel the on field performance has direct implications for, say, our chemistry department. (2) And here's where you may need to read slower: IT'S NOT THE RESULT OF JUST ONE GAME!
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Ft. Lauderdale
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:40 am to
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Alright, so when are we going to hear something on the OC
We aren't, unless it's forced by Aleva and the big money. Miles has already drawn his line in the sand, his loyalty to friends/coaches supersedes his judgment to do what's best for his team.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:50 am to
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Miles has already drawn his line in the sand, his loyalty to friends/coaches supersedes his judgment to do what's best for his team.


I'm all for getting rid of GC, and if Miles doesn't it will be a mistake...however, it's foolish to believe that he knows he should get rid of a coach but won't because their buddies. Keeping the guy you have is always an option if you can't find/afford/lure the guy you really want.
Posted by Linkovich
crater lake
Member since Feb 2007
9553 posts
Posted on 1/3/10 at 9:59 am to
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however, it's foolish to believe that he knows he should get rid of a coach but won't because their buddies


I don't know. Tubberville tried this.
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