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re: Alleva did what he thought was best

Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:57 am to
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:57 am to
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The point is, every single coach has criticisms. At least with O we'll have recruiting locked down.


We had recruiting locked down since what, 2001? We didn't need O for that.

Give me another reason.
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 11:57 am
Posted by Boh
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:57 am to
For the record I wanted Jimbo. But the fricking outrage over O is a joke to me.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:57 am to
What Alleva thought was best was to make a phone call to a previous offensive coordinator and then make one offer to one other coach and give up midway through negotiations?

That's what he thought was best?

That's pathetic.

Coach O isn't going anyway. Bring in a bunch of candidates, interview them, have an actual coaching search, etc....

You don't just offer one guy off the cuff and then quit negotiating because it's hard.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:57 am to
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If you're criticizing O for losing to Bama and Florida, what do you say about Houston losing to SMU and Memphis?

when we fired Les, they started losing

i wonder why that was
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81670 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:58 am to
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At Ole Miss 10 years ago. You think they had LSU type talent?


You think they didn't have vandy, wake or Wyoming talent?

Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:58 am to
We hired him because he's cajun. It's incredible.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481186 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:58 am to
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But the fricking outrage over O is a joke to me.


LSU just hired a guy to run our program who Syracuse passed over
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:59 am to
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Yes, if you know a slew of coaches, let's list them and their full coaching record. They could all be ripped apart.


Being able to "rip them apart" isn't the same as being "an unmitigated failure" like O was.

You can literally rip every hire in the country. That is NOT a valid reason to not hire those people over proven failure Coach O.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 11:59 am to
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Do you fricking know he didn't vet 5-7 candidates? No. you only believe the parts of what you see online that validate your own opinion. frick you.


pretty sums it up. most people on this board believe what they want to or what some idiot who claims sources says.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:00 pm to
He did the job pretty well after being given the responsibility before October. People act like O didn't do a good job. The difference between the Wisconsin game and how we looked on the road against Arky and aTm is off the charts. He proved that he is a competent coach
Posted by bengaltil7
danville, CA
Member since Mar 2011
206 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:00 pm to
Alleva has ruined both our football and basketball programs. Wonder which program he'll strike next
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40997 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:01 pm to
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pretty sums it up. most people on this board believe what they want to or what some idiot who claims sources says.


We are hiring Coach 0 2 days after our last game.

He clearly didn't perform a search for shite.

Stop.
Posted by Breesus
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:01 pm to
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Do you fricking know he didn't vet 5-7 candidates


I know he made one offer and then cried about how hard negotiating is and then didn't do his job.
Posted by Boh
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:01 pm to
Herman is a proven failure this year FWIW. Weren't they supposed to go undefeated and be in the playoff conversation? Sounds like he came up way short with a 9-3 record.

Oh, he was distracted by LSU/Texas talk and couldn't get his players focused? Shame on him then.
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:02 pm to
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I know he made one offer and then cried about how hard negotiating is and then didn't do his job.

Right, because vague sources are always reliable.
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
23706 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:02 pm to
I'm not exactly pro O, but I'm enjoying the melt. He was night and day compared to Miles and he's going to recruit like hell. Miles gets fired, LSU sets offensive records and dominates teams Les would have lost to. If he fails, he won't leave an empty cupboard. With Alleva at the top, you should have known this was going to happen.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40997 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:03 pm to
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Herman is a proven failure this year FWIW. Weren't they supposed to go undefeated and be in the playoff conversation? Sounds like he came up way short with a 9-3 record. Oh, he was distracted by LSU/Texas talk and couldn't get his players focused? Shame on him then.


What is Coach O's record again?

What about Fleck, MacIntyre, Fedora, Taggart, et al that have actual winning records? Who stepped into way shittier programs and created diamonds from turds?

I'm not saying they would win a National Title here. We can't say that about anybody, but holy shite, Coach fricking O?
This post was edited on 11/26/16 at 12:04 pm
Posted by Boh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
12361 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:04 pm to
Who were your #1 and #2 choices?
Posted by Amish threesome
Olive Branch
Member since Oct 2013
976 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:05 pm to
Alleva did what alleva wanted. Alleva wanted O but had to appease the boosters by going to jimbo and Herman. Firing a coach mid season and only looking at two coach then picking your interm coach shows Alleva was never really serious with making LSU Great again( see what I did there).
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40997 posts
Posted on 11/26/16 at 12:05 pm to
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Who were your #1 and #2 choices?


Doesn't matter, O wasn't my #3 or on my list. That is the point. Alleva didn't do any work.
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