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re: Adam Schefter reporting Stoops to ND

Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:17 pm to
Posted by TigerWoody
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:17 pm to
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Stoops does NOT strike me as an elite coach. He seems to struggle with the same things that ND has struggled with in recent years.

Agreed. frick'em. They deserve to keep repeating history, over and over, and over, and over, and over, and ..........

ND = the most arrogant asswipes of all time
Posted by beaver
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:23 pm to
he's not reporting that? he's writing on a social networking site what he has heard...
Posted by STEALTH
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Posted on 11/30/09 at 11:34 pm to
Stoops does NOT strike me as an elite coach. He seems to struggle with the same things that ND has struggled with in recent years.

Wow, Oklahoma was at the bottom of the Big 12 when Stoops took over you do realize that?

With all due respect to Kelley he is a great coach but he has never won a BCS game or been in a remotely tough conference. ND needs some defense of help and just saying Stoops has been producing some great defenses for the past 2 decades. Since when did Stoops become a bad coach?
Posted by OldIowaTiger
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:51 am to
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Oklahoma was at the bottom of the Big 12 when Stoops took over you do realize that?


Do you think that had any relation to their time on probation?

And now Stoops doesn't exactly have them rolling over the Big 12 every year, does he? He's good for 8-10 wins and nothing in a big bowl game. That doesn't cut it for Notre Dame.
Posted by Chicken
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:58 am to
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And now Stoops doesn't exactly have them rolling over the Big 12 every year, does he? He's good for 8-10 wins and nothing in a big bowl game. That doesn't cut it for Notre Dame.
Would these records cut it at ND:

13-0
11-2
12-2
12-2
12-1
8-4
11-3
11-3
12-2

Those were his records this decade before this season...
Posted by windriver
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 8:59 am to
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Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:09 am to
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Would these records cut it at ND:
Yes, but losing to SC 55-19 wouldn't. I tend to agree with other posters on this. Stoops is a good solid coach in a Jim Tressel sort of way. He's not someone I'd expect to be at the top of ND's list.
Posted by OldIowaTiger
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:11 am to
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Would these records cut it at ND:


Chicken, with all due respect, how many bowl wins or conference and national titles before this season?
Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:28 am to
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Chicken, with all due respect, how many bowl wins or conference and national titles before this season?



He's 4-6 in bowl games(5 of the losses were in BCS games), has 1 National Championship, and 6 Big 12 titles. Also has 8 10+ win seasons in 11 years, and 7 top 10 finishes. Besides this year, the other 2 seasons where he finished outside the top 10, he finished #11 and #22.




Anybody who doesn't believe Bob Stoops is an elite coach, is quite simply fricking stupid. Only Meyer, Carroll, and maybe Tressell have the resumes to match.




Also, I still like Miles and am proud of his 4-0 record in bowls, but bowl-record is a terrible way to judge a coach. Unless it's for the NC, those games are not as meaningful as most conference games. Winning the conference and losing the Fiesta Bowl >>>> finishing 3rd in conference and dominating the Peach.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:30 am to
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And now Stoops doesn't exactly have them rolling over the Big 12 every year, does he?

OU has won the last 3 big12 titles
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:31 am to
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how many bowl wins or conference and national titles before this season?

1 national title (00)
3 other title appearances (03, 04, 08)
6 big 12 titles

stoops owns his conference
Posted by The Egg
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:32 am to
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Also, I still like Miles and am proud of his 4-0 record in bowls, but bowl-record is a terrible way to judge a coach. Unless it's for the NC, those games are not as meaningful as most conference games. Winning the conference and losing the Fiesta Bowl >>>> finishing 3rd in conference and dominating the Peach.
no shite eh? don't tell a ranter that, though.
Posted by Bubba Hotep
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Would these records cut it at ND:

13-0
11-2
12-2
12-2
12-1
8-4
11-3
11-3
12-2


When you throw in this year, I'm not sure that record is acceptable at LSU. From what I read, anyway.
Posted by Jason
Member since Nov 2003
3096 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:33 am to
Well lets see yes he has lost a lot of BCS bowl games in a row but that doesn't make him a bad coach or an average coach. His teams have lost to better teams outside of Boise State. But how about lets look at the numbers shall we?

Comming into this his 11th season as Head Coach at OU his record is 109 wins & 24 losses. Thats a winning % of 82%. He has won one National Championship and has taken his team to 3 other National Title games. So he has had his team in the National Championship game 4 TIMES. Thats more than anyone else thats in coaching right now. He has won six Big 12 titles and taken his teams to 7 BCS Bowls since 2000. I'm sorry but it's hard to find a better resume for anyone coaching in Division 1 right now. He is by far one of the best coaches in America. Just facts.



Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22198 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:34 am to
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And now Stoops doesn't exactly have them rolling over the Big 12 every year, does he?


would you consider 6 Big XII championships since 2000 "rolling over the Big XII"?
This post was edited on 12/1/09 at 9:51 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
465297 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:39 am to
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His teams have lost to better teams outside of Boise State.

hell after the fact i don't even know if OU was better than BSU with a WR playing QB and a not clos to 100% AD

quote:

I'm sorry but it's hard to find a better resume for anyone coaching in Division 1 right now.

pete carroll if you're looking at consistency of success

urban meyer in terms of titles
Posted by OldIowaTiger
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:40 am to
That's fine and all, and I certainly would take his record here at LSU (except that he likely wouldn't have the same results in the SEC). But we're talking Notre Dame where every tiny detail is under a microscope.

I still stand by Stoops being an odd choice. I don't think ND would be satisfied with the results of Stoops or Tressel honestly. I just don't. They want undefeated seasons and regular top 5 rankings with national titles.

And I'm no more ranter than you are egg.
Posted by Suntiger
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Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:41 am to
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1 national title (00)
3 other title appearances (03, 04, 08)
6 big 12 titles

stoops owns his conference


People always think the grass is greener with someone else. Mac is a huge name all of a sudden, but until lately he didn't have Stoops' resume, but he's the greatest coach all of a sudden.
Posted by The Egg
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2004
83133 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:41 am to
indeed.

but just IMO, i do think ND needs more of a defensive minded coach than say a brian kelly.

the talent is there to succeed now if they get the coaching in place.
Posted by Brendoni
Oklahoma City, Ok
Member since Apr 2009
22198 posts
Posted on 12/1/09 at 9:41 am to
people here a 100% sure he isn't going to ND. who knows, but he would be a good choice for them.
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