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re: 7 football programs a HC would never leave for another college gig
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:13 pm to slackster
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:13 pm to slackster
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This is the inherent problem with an LSU message board. Michigan is a better long-term job than LSU, fact. LSU is a long ways away from having the NATIONAL prowess that Michigan has.
If we had lost WWII you'd be right
But since 1950 Michigan has ONE (THAT'S ONE!) national championship - the 1997 title under Carr. LSU obviously has 3 - 1958, 2003, 2007
LSU does not compare with Michigan all time when it comes to wins - but other than internet jockeys trying to defend dumb threads... most people realize it's actually easier to win at LSU than Michigan right now
Other examples for you that you will ignore happily I'm sure... Florida and Texas are better jobs than Notre Dame now... even tho they have much fewer National Championships and less Historical Prestige... they are the name schools in hugely talent rich states where it is easier to recruit
In today's football coaching jobs
Texas > Notre Dame
Florida > Notre Dame
LSU > Michigan
And in spite of this IMO Miles very well could take the Michigan job because he loves his school
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Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:16 pm to slackster
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This is the inherent problem with an LSU message board. Michigan is a better long-term job than LSU, fact. LSU is a long ways away from having the NATIONAL prowess that Michigan has.
Can you imagine ESPN having such a field day if LSU had just fired its coach? Of course not. LSU is a great program and huge on a national level, but it is still not Michigan.
more publicity definitely doesnt = better coaching gig.. if you're a coach that feeds off of that type of stuff then maybe but as an overall opportunity for a head coach i'd say they are about on par with each other.. its not like your credibility deminishes being the head coach at either school
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:16 pm to LSU GrandDad
I dont believe LSU to be a destination school. If miles leaves then it becomes a good stop on the way to your ultimate destination. I'll be surprised if our next coach lasts that long. Les won the west in his first year on campus. Whats the next head coach going to have to do to follow that and gain the support of the fans? The next head coach will have to win 11+ games next year to best miles.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:27 pm to molsusports
I am not saying the Michigan deserves that prominence chief, but it is there whether you like it or not. Also, you are creating a new arguement about what schools provide the easiest route to wins. I am not arguing that point. Truth is, it is easier to win at Bose that it is at Michigan right now, but no one would foolishly compare the two when it comes to coaching prestige. The point of this thread is to humble those LSU fans who are at a loss for words that Miles may leave as well as those who excuse it away as his alma mater. This dose of humble pie should quench those thirsting for reasons why a coach would possibly leave high and mighty LSU.
I am obviously one of a few posters who can love LSU football without being out of touch with reality or the national perception of a program, not simply the perception in Livingston parish or something lol. i
I am obviously one of a few posters who can love LSU football without being out of touch with reality or the national perception of a program, not simply the perception in Livingston parish or something lol. i
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:34 pm to slackster
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The point of this thread is to humble those LSU fans who are at a loss for words that Miles may leave as well as those who excuse it away as his alma mater. This dose of humble pie should quench those thirsting for reasons why a coach would possibly leave high and mighty LSU.
So pretty much you're a troll - not really here to honestly debate because you have a dislike for some LSU fans?
I'm sorry if some LSU fan offended you... probably the right thing for you to do is grow up and do something else... instead of trying to be a jerk to get back at whoever pissed you off by starting dumb threads
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:36 pm to King Mello
Better coaching gig = best opportunity to become a coaching legend. Not just win 10 games a year, but go down in college history as a legend.
As for the other poster about Bill Curry, you should try to look up the specifics regarding his departure from Alabama. He had never beat Auburn and knew what was coming if he stayed, hence his departure for Kentucky.
As for the other poster about Bill Curry, you should try to look up the specifics regarding his departure from Alabama. He had never beat Auburn and knew what was coming if he stayed, hence his departure for Kentucky.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:37 pm to Elleshoe
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Posted by Elleshoe
Coach Fran!
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:40 pm to Elleshoe
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When's the last time an LSU coach left for another college job? Deitzel?
Bill Arnsbarger became AD at Florida... but not what you were really getting at.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:41 pm to molsusports
There is plent of opportunity for debate. When did you even pose a question or attempt any discussion yourself?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:42 pm to slackster
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The point of this thread is to humble those LSU fans who are at a loss for words that Miles may leave as well as those who excuse it away as his alma mater.
This is the only reason in this particular case. You can't prove or disprove my assertion any more than I can yours.
A couple of holes along the thread, however, there was just as much hoopla when Saban left LSU and when Miles was being considered the first time. At least one of these had absolutely nothing to do with Michigan and the other was a combination of the two.
I just don't think there is an absolute list that stands the test of time and it depends on too many other factors. UCLA basketball would have never been on the list? Michigan football will always be on the list?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:42 pm to TriumphTiger
I think the OP was pretty on with his assessment. LSU and Oklahoma are very close to being on the level described by the OP.
I think the fact that ESPN had such a field day with the firing of RichRod while Michigan has been subpar the last few seasons is quite telling. Its all from a historical standpoint.
I think the fact that ESPN had such a field day with the firing of RichRod while Michigan has been subpar the last few seasons is quite telling. Its all from a historical standpoint.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:44 pm to slackster
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There is plent of opportunity for debate. When did you even pose a question or attempt any discussion yourself?
in all of my responses prior
I'm sorry if you are nerd-raging because some LSU fan insulted you... grow up tho - it's not that big of a deal
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:44 pm to slackster
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Notre Dame
Doesn't belong on the list
Until they're at least a perennial top 25 team they don't matter anymore. Period.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:46 pm to Powerman
ND definitely belongs on that list. I agree with the OP's list, I think it's pretty much dead on.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:46 pm to molsusports
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molsusports
What schoold should/should not be on that list for college football gigs?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:53 pm to slackster
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What schoold should/should not be on that list for college football gigs?
as I've already argued there is no such thing as a school that every coach would never leave
If you at at a great program where you can win NCs you will still consider leaving (if the school calling with the job offer is a job where you can win and you have a personal affection of love)
There are certainly elite coaching jobs and IMO Florida and Texas top that list... with other schools like USC, OSU, LSU, Alabama, and Georgia offering similar recruiting advantages that make winning easier
IMO the Michigan job is a great one - although not as good as the other jobs I mentioned above (because of recruiting issues)... but for Miles it may be better if he just loves the school that much
Posted on 1/10/11 at 1:54 pm to Powerman
Powerman- As long as ND has NBC, they will always be one of the easiest schools for a coach to create his legacy, hence their nam being on the list.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 2:00 pm to slackster
From an objective standpoint, what do you guys believe is a better job to take over right now...
Michigan though they have had some down years, or Michigan State that has a solid team,
If one was a HC, where would you go?
Michigan though they have had some down years, or Michigan State that has a solid team,
If one was a HC, where would you go?
Posted on 1/10/11 at 2:03 pm to TigerintheNO
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Bill Curry also left Bama
I think the OP is referring to the state of the programs right now. If you go back 20 years or more, this list could be very different.
Posted on 1/10/11 at 2:12 pm to molsusports
So your list would be Florida and Texas. I like it. Could you imagine the head coach at Notre Dame leaving for those schools though?
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