re: Wheel of Time TV, Full Trailer Oct 27, show premieres Nov 19

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I'm just saying because we are in for MUCH bigger changes than this.

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I know we're a long ways away, but I'll go on record now that if they frick up Androl I will be pissed.

I agree. My understanding is Androl was Sanderson's opportunity to make at least a small part of the story his own. He was extremely well developed, and his magical skill set was important in how the last battle played out, though anyone who ever played the videogame Portal knows that there were many overlooked opportunities to take advantage of that skill. His interaction with Pevara in the final couple of books was beautifully done, showing the sea change that would be expected in the future as the stigma of male channeling fell away.

The resolution of the black tower difficulties can definitely be done with logain and a host of unnamed lackeys

Showrunner answering a lot of questions in his instagram story. Most of his answers seem very reassuring

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Looking forward to the show about a quarter way through Winters Heart right now. Path of Daggers was surprisingly good.

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Path of Daggers was good, Winters Heart is meh but had some good parts at the end. Crossroads of twilight was rough, just not much happens in the book, lot of set up, but then knife of dreams is good.

He said that they were slowed down but have been able to do work, visual effects, etc. so it isn't a total standstill but I'm sure it will push release date back.

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Showrunner answering a lot of questions in his instagram story. Most of his answers seem very reassuring

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Yes, very.

Seems to indicate at the very least that Min is in Season 1, and possibly Elayne as well, we just haven't seen the casting yet.

Some other pretty reassuring answers that he "gets it".

And I dont know if this old news or not, but saw today that they had the game of thrones costume designer on board now. Definitely a good pick up

Holy shite y’all weren’t lying about Crossroads of Twilight. It took over halfway through for something interesting to happen. Looks like Wheel of time on prime twitter is starting a reread for fans to discuss each Wednesday. Next Wednesday doing eye of the world prologue and chapters 1-2. Not sure if it will be spoiler free or not so I’ll be checking in but wary of spoilers.

Crossroads is just awful stuff. I remember waiting a few years between books and getting CoT and thinking WHAT IN THE frick IS THIS.

Its clear that Jordan had tied himself into a knot trying to figure out how to put the characters into their end game. He really figured it out big time in the next book, sadly he passed right after.

Ya well Shadow Rising up through book 7 or so is just an incredible stretch in fantasy, so you are right in the middle of most people's favorite part.

Outside of books 9 and 10, the rest of the books are really all pretty good to exceptional, including the final 3 by Sanderson so 12 / 14 is a solid average for the series as a whole.

I don't know if its 100% true but it seemed in one of Sanderson's interviews he mentioned that Books 10 and 11 were written as a single volume - and they needed to split it in half to publish the books. So they just split the book in half chapter wise and so you end up with Book 10 as pure set up and Book 11 as the turn to the end, which kind of makes sense.

I think the other aspect that comes into play here is that Jordan was writing the series essentially following the main characters every day from when Moiraine comes to Emond's Field up through the ending. So he doesn't really have very much "7 months later" type techniques to pass time where the characters get help up and are struggling to complete their task. This sort of aspect comes to a head in books 9 and 10 - although the back end part of 9 is still pretty good it is the only other one I felt was below the Wheel of Time standard.

Book 7 is great and I thought 8 was still pretty strong, Rand's storyline was great and very important to the overall story IMO.

Won't say much more to avoid spoilers but the really bad parts of the storyline didn't really come into play until Winter's Heart IMO.

Ya but he was able to figure Mat out about halfway through - he said he didn't have enough beta readers for Gathering Storm. So he didn't really understand where he missed on Mat until after his first book was out.


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This is the interview I think where I heard Sanderson talk about that stuff - i went down a rabbit hole looking for other interviews after watching this so I could be wrong. Spoilers for anyone who hasn't finished the series.


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