re: Stormlight Archives - Spoilers and Discussion thread (and other Cosmere spoilers)

Hey at least you have multiple points and articulate them. Most the people on fb threads are just yelling Sanderson sucks he shite the bed, he can’t write anymore, etc. I do think he heard some of the “Sanderson doesn’t have the best prose” shite online because ever since the secret projects he’s seemed to want to make his conversations “deeper” if that makes sense. He dropped some dimes in Tress and Yumi at least, seemed to maybe be trying to hard and that. The humor too but i liked that for the most part. All that said Honors dead but I’ll see what I can do line had me yelling “frick yes” outloud

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Hey at least you have multiple points and articulate them.

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I mean I own every leather bound signed on first release so far and have reread Stormlight in total twice now I love the universe I’m just upset at the end of era 1. Although I get less upset the more I focus on Taravangian and Adolin. I got wrapped up in the individual characters because Sanderson wrote them and fleshed them out so well in WoK and WoR and then slowly dumped them for a larger universe. I don’t know when he decided to make it 10 books and tie it into the cosmere and there are rumors about him rewriting endings since Oathbreaker. I’m curious to know what his original outlines for Era 1 were and how much he altered them to fit this massive expansion.

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ever since the secret projects he’s seemed to want to make his conversations “deeper” if that makes sense

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Agreed. That was one of my early issues 20,000 words ago in my essay about this book I posted over the last week

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All that said Honors dead but I’ll see what I can do line had me yelling “frick yes” outloud

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I had a couple audible cheers in this book as well.

The Lopen knocking Moash on his arse and saving Sigzil
Adolin’s fight against Abidi
Kaladin saving Szeth by stopping Nale’s sword
Adolin using the bodies of dead fused as weapons on his rampage through the dome
Szeth finally drawing Nightblood in Shadesmare

The action sequences were written so damn well. Szeth’s fights at the monasteries were fantastic.

I also laughed out loud at Pattern a couple times. “Shallan is good at killing people” “Don’t say that” “Ok…. Shallan is good at making people unalive”

I am still upset Sanderson didn’t let us watch Taln fight and slaughter dozens of fused.

See I disagree with the assertion that Taravangian is the bad guy. Or even a serial killer. That was what I got out of this book. All the “gods” got their start by murdering God so they aren’t innocent. And then they trapped the most powerful ones in one star system and hoped they’d never see them again. And the original shard bearers, at least on Roshar, sucked. Rayse was a lunatic and Tanavast was a sniveling traitorous pussy. Taravangian now holds odium “passion” and honor so he’s able to better control his passions. I hope he wins in the end. He’s always just wanted to protect his kingdom and his family. He did what was necessary to accomplish that goal with the least pain possible. And now he will carry that drive and spirit into the cosmere.

Other Shards are shady as hell as well just look at Autonomy

Prior to Harmony, ruin was trying to kill preservation

Just saying I think deep down all the people who took up shards are flawed and ultimately fall to some corruption

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Odium is responsible for the deaths of at least 4 shards. Ambition, Devotion, Dominion, and Honor.

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All 4 of those shards got their shards by murdering god. So I have no sympathy for them. And we have met ruin and autonomy, who are just awful. And now understand Honor and odium. Tanavast definitely deserved death. I hope Taravangian is able to absorb all the remaining shards and become god.

#TeamSazed for collecting all the shards checking in

Him calling tanavast “Tanner” just to be a dick was hilarious.

Do we really need Lift flashbacks? Unless they’re flashing back to Vasher training her. Edgedancer was her intro don’t think we need much more but what to I know. The rest sound cool.

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All 4 of those shards got their shards by murdering god.

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We don't yet know what that was all about yet. Perhaps it was self-defense from a god who randomly decided they had played with these toys (the universe) enough and it was time to simply throw it all away (destroy the universe). Tanavast, for example, believed that it was for Adonalsium's own good.

Also, we don't know that they truly "murdered" Adonalsium. With Shards being able to be combined, it could well be that the Shattering simply broke Adonalsium down into component parts which can be re-assembled. Heck, it could even be that Adonalsium planned this as a way to experience something new (cleaving its divinity enough to no longer know all outcomes, for example).

From an interview Sanderson did a few years back, we know there was some force resisting Adonalsium, perhaps that had corrupted it and Adonalsium decided that splitting itself up was the best way to diffuse and/or exercise that corruption? Or perhaps it thought the new perspective from being shattered might give it answers in overcoming whatever was resisting it?

While we know a good bit, there's still much we don't know.

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Roshar: I will be rooting for Taravangian, who is the most well written villain I can remember and still has an outside chance to turn anti-hero. And Adolin who is the true hero and redemption of Roshar.

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