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Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:31 pm
Posted by Jyrdis
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:31 pm
What are some absolute must reads on the history of the Soviet Union?
Posted by ridlejs
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Posted on 7/11/19 at 9:54 pm to
I’m reading the first volume of Stalin right now by Kotkin. Not an easy read by any means but is supposed to be the premier biography on Stalin. He only uses actual source materials from the Soviet archives.

I think his Magnetic Mountain may be more of an overview of The Soviet Union.

Either way, Kotkin is very interesting. He is the leading historian on the Soviet Union and is a professor at Princeton. But rather than being an apologist for Marxism and Communism, he blasts it. He also looks and sounds just like Joe Pesci. It’s really funny to listen to someone so brilliant talk the way he does.
Posted by Htowntiger90
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 8:24 am to
That's a tough one with so much shrouded behind the Iron Curtain for years and the unreliability of writers depending on their viewpoints.
I read a bio on Stalin: Triumph & Tragedy by Dimitry Volkogonov years back. It was a good read. Volkogonov was head of the Soviet military's psychological warfare dept. Lots of background on the roots of Soviet communism and collectivism.
I also have copies of Kruschev's memoirs (Kruschev Remembers, two volumes) that I bought cheap used and never read. Will I ever? Life may be too short for those (and the Kissinger memoirs I have). And how reliable of a narrator is Kruschev?

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Posted by Loubacca
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 9:12 am to
I enjoyed Lenin's Tomb: The Last Days of the Soviet Empire by Dave Remnick

I found this book assumes you have a decent background in the subject when presenting some of the information.
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 7/12/19 at 12:58 pm to
A People's Tragedy by Orlando Figes (Warning: Almost 1000 pages and only covers 1891 to 1924)

The Russian Revolution by Sheila Fitzpatrick (A more concise volume often used as University textbook on the subject, basically runs from right at the Revolution through the rise of Hitler)

Martin McCauley's Rise and Fall of the Soviet Union is a good summary of the entire period under 1 cover.

Posted by LuckyTiger
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 10:03 am to
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And how reliable of a narrator is Kruschev?

I find these experiences interesting as they offer a direct insight into the person’s point of view.
Posted by beachdude
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Posted on 7/24/19 at 9:43 pm to
Most history of the USSR is made up. Short story: a bloodthirsty dictatorship run by psychopaths who changed history on a whim knowing their cowed, demoralized, frightened “citizens” could do NOTHING up and until the fourth generation.
Posted by tigahbruh
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 5:03 pm to

Great book, written by a Russian scholar. Looks at policy from the perspective of each premier, from Stalin to Gorbachev. Also through a lens of of the ideological contradiction of a government claiming to support "The revolution" while simultaneously enacting extreme authoritarian acts and seeking an imperialist practical foreign policy.
One of the things I found interesting was how erratic Khrushchev was...and apparently usually drunk.
Another was his take on Brezhnev...actually somewhat positive.
One of the more surprising things was the negative view he takes of Gorbachev. Although less surprising when you think of it. Gorbachev oversaw the collapse of Soviet society and the rapid decline of Russia's international status.

Good read. From an interesting perspective.
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 7/25/19 at 9:53 pm to
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Soviet Union History


And then, things got worse.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 7/29/19 at 12:18 pm to
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One of the things I found interesting was how erratic Khrushchev was...and apparently usually drunk.


Thanks for the recommendation, book ordered.

I just finished Berlin 1961 which is good. It looks at the interaction between Kennedy and Khrushchev. Kennedy had a lot to learn. Khrushchev came off as pretty interesting, a bit of a loose canon more concerned about hanging on to power and improving life in the Soviet Union than anything else. He was far less into communist revolution than the rest of the communist block, especially the Chinese. Not the tyrant that Stalin was. His autobiography is something I want to read some day.
Posted by tigger1
Member since Mar 2005
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 4:56 am to
Any real history of the Soviet Union will have at it's core Joseph Stalin.

Stalin made the country into the power it became, but at it's roots even dating back to 1880's corruption would play a major role through out it's history.


Once Stalin grains undisputed power it set in motions a domino on the brink of super power, but corrupt to the core; it would only take one event to make that domino fall and that event turned out to be Chernobyl.

Stalin is the best place to start a history of the Union.

Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 8/19/19 at 1:20 pm to
Simon Sebag Montefiore wrote two books that are outstanding.
“Stalin, The Court Of The Red Czar” and
“Young Stalin”
Both of those books are great and Montefiore spent over a decade doing research. He comes from and old Anglo-Jewish family of wealthy bankers. You’ll enjoy both books I’m sure.
Posted by Tigris
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Posted on 8/26/19 at 9:16 pm to
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it would only take one event to make that domino fall and that event turned out to be Chernobyl.


I'm just finishing up A Failed Empire and an argument could be made that the first domino was the invasion of Afghanistan. Add in low oil prices and Gorbachev taking power with his reforms. Chernobyl certainly had a huge impact on Gorbachev's thinking about the hopeless situation of nuclear war.
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 7:34 am to
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And then, things got worse.

Ha ha you funny. Go to Gulag last.
Posted by Tau Neutrino
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Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/29/19 at 10:43 pm to
Gulag by Anne Applebaum is a good read if you want to learn more about the brutality of the Soviet prison system. I read it several years ago in college.
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:29 am to
Khrushchev’s memoirs were translated by his son Sergei who is not a puppet but of course not totally objective on his father
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
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Posted on 9/5/19 at 12:34 am to
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One of the things I found interesting was how erratic Khrushchev was...and apparently usually drunk.


Khrushchev had a 4th grade education. Stalin got everyone drunk to spill secrets. Nikita just happened to be the guy they usually made dance and laugh at.
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 9/8/19 at 12:30 pm to
Glasnost ended the USSR. Once the average Soviet citizen came to realize just how far behind the West his country really was, the end was in sight.
Posted by S
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Posted on 9/15/19 at 10:45 pm to
Cska gfy
Posted by Mr Personality
Bangkok
Member since Mar 2014
27364 posts
Posted on 9/17/19 at 11:19 pm to
Glasnost was still very limited. Ultimately a shitty economy killed the USSR.
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