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re: Sci-Fi/Fantasy Recommendation & Discussion Thread
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:13 am to Captain Ray
Posted on 4/21/19 at 8:13 am to Captain Ray
Finished the Obelisk Gate / Book 2 of the Broken Earth trilogy and I thought it was a fantastic book. One of the better books I've read in the last couple years.
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Posted on 4/21/19 at 11:50 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Finished the Obelisk Gate / Book 2 of the Broken Earth trilogy and I thought it was a fantastic book. One of the better books I've read in the last couple years.
Agreed on all counts, the third is equally as good and an excellent conclusion to the series IMO. I'm really interested to see what her next fantasy book series looks like when she writes it.
I haven't bothered to read her earlier stuff since reviews seemed much more mixed on them, but I guess I should probably get around to it sometime since I enjoyed Broken Earth so much.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 9:05 pm to auyushu
Good to hear about the third, about to start it. I enjoyed the first and all but the second was really well done.
Posted on 4/21/19 at 10:07 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Just finished up Second Variety. Pretty horrifying. The plot works much better with the cold war going hot, than the conflict in the movie "screamers".
I'd seen the movie years ago so I was pretty confident who wasn't human but, still a good story
I'd seen the movie years ago so I was pretty confident who wasn't human but, still a good story
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:04 am to Sneaky__Sally
I have no idea what to read next. Kind of lost.
I’ve read most of the major series. I was thinking about reading Broken Earth but then I saw someone saying they loved Malazan so they recommended this as well. I absolutely hate Malazan.
I was thinking about The Black Company.
I’ve read most of the major series. I was thinking about reading Broken Earth but then I saw someone saying they loved Malazan so they recommended this as well. I absolutely hate Malazan.
I was thinking about The Black Company.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:26 am to Fun Bunch
Black Company is way more like Malazan than Broken Earth.
Go with Broken Earth - the books are only 400 pages each anyway and are not difficult reads like Malazan. The 2nd Book was excellent and I am enjoying the 3rd very much about halfway through.
I also recently read Night Angel trilogy and enjoyed it. Not a huge world building series which is what I'm normally into but I enjoyed it.
Also, when I'm in doubt, I go to look at some of those long list of recommendations on the 1st page and google around some. auyushu seems to have read nearly everything and hasn't steered me wrong yet.
I'll probably be adding either Shadow Campaigns or Powdermage as the next series to my list. Need to knock out a few of the pile next to my bed before going for more though after I finish up Broken Earth.
Go with Broken Earth - the books are only 400 pages each anyway and are not difficult reads like Malazan. The 2nd Book was excellent and I am enjoying the 3rd very much about halfway through.
I also recently read Night Angel trilogy and enjoyed it. Not a huge world building series which is what I'm normally into but I enjoyed it.
Also, when I'm in doubt, I go to look at some of those long list of recommendations on the 1st page and google around some. auyushu seems to have read nearly everything and hasn't steered me wrong yet.
I'll probably be adding either Shadow Campaigns or Powdermage as the next series to my list. Need to knock out a few of the pile next to my bed before going for more though after I finish up Broken Earth.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 8:41 am
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:46 am to Fun Bunch
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I have no idea what to read next. Kind of lost.
I’ve read most of the major series. I was thinking about reading Broken Earth but then I saw someone saying they loved Malazan so they recommended this as well. I absolutely hate Malazan.
I was thinking about The Black Company
If you have t read it, check out The Faithful and the Fallen by John Gwynn.
4 books. Really good. Lots of action with great characters. Much easier read than Malazan
Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:59 am to memphis tiger
Faithful and the Fallen was also very good. Strong characters, uses a lot of familiar fantasy tropes, but done in a good way and also turns some on their head.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:02 am to memphis tiger
Faithful and the Fallen is on my radar as well. Leaning towards that.
I’ve talked about my hate for Malazan on here a lot. I don’t find it a “difficult read” in the sense you’re thinking. Not going to get into it here, not the place.
THanks for the recs
I’ve talked about my hate for Malazan on here a lot. I don’t find it a “difficult read” in the sense you’re thinking. Not going to get into it here, not the place.
THanks for the recs
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:33 am to Fun Bunch
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I’ve talked about my hate for Malazan on here a lot. I don’t find it a “difficult read” in the sense you’re thinking. Not going to get into it here, not the place.
I certainly did, and its one of my favorites - so didn't really mean anything negative by that comment. It isn't a book where you can burn through pages, at least for me, just found it written in a challenging / cumbersome style to understand. I found the payoff to be well worth it, but can certainly see how / why others disagree.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:04 am to Sneaky__Sally
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Faithful and the Fallen was also very good.
+1
Great characters, IMO.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:33 am to Fun Bunch
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I absolutely hate Malazan.
Then you'll hate The Black Company.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 1:39 pm to Centinel
Perfect. Good to know.
I thought the Black Company was more similar to First Law?
I thought the Black Company was more similar to First Law?
Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:39 pm to Fun Bunch
Erikson basically based the Malazan army grunts on the black company, and he's a huge fan of Cook. So there are a ton of similarities in that black company is very high magic and the story is mostly told from a grunt point of view.
Black company isn't super philosophical or nearly as "throw you into the action and show not tell" as Malazan though. Black company is a little bit like a mix of Abercrombie and malazan, but more similar in style to malazan.
Broken Earth is nothing like Malazan though.
I'd suggest faith and the fallen as well, it's a very fun read. Old school fantasy feel but still somewhat gritty and subverts some tropes like Sally said.
Black company isn't super philosophical or nearly as "throw you into the action and show not tell" as Malazan though. Black company is a little bit like a mix of Abercrombie and malazan, but more similar in style to malazan.
Broken Earth is nothing like Malazan though.
I'd suggest faith and the fallen as well, it's a very fun read. Old school fantasy feel but still somewhat gritty and subverts some tropes like Sally said.
Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:35 pm to auyushu
Ok...I will do it.
I know damn well we've all seen it on our audible suggestions and shunned it due to the title. I know I did for over a year, but I'm glad I finally gave in.
We Are Legion (We Are Bob) is sort of between The Martian and Scalzi's Old Man's War as a kind of easy read or indulgence...but don't blow past the Bobiverse just yet. It's got more of a hard sci-fi edge to it than the comparisons I mentioned, and if you can forgive some "hand-waving" here and there regarding technical aspects, (I LOVE that analogy) it is an enjoyable ride. I am on book 3 now, and I'm not ashamed to recommend it.
Here's a goodreads link for more info.
I know damn well we've all seen it on our audible suggestions and shunned it due to the title. I know I did for over a year, but I'm glad I finally gave in.
We Are Legion (We Are Bob) is sort of between The Martian and Scalzi's Old Man's War as a kind of easy read or indulgence...but don't blow past the Bobiverse just yet. It's got more of a hard sci-fi edge to it than the comparisons I mentioned, and if you can forgive some "hand-waving" here and there regarding technical aspects, (I LOVE that analogy) it is an enjoyable ride. I am on book 3 now, and I'm not ashamed to recommend it.
Here's a goodreads link for more info.
Posted on 5/2/19 at 3:51 pm to Sneaky__Sally
Altered Carbon (and the following books in the series: Broken Angels, Woken Furies)
Neuromancer
Rendevous with Rama
Hyperion
Childhood's End
The Forever War
Snow Crash
The Mote in God's Eye
Lord of Light
Gateway
The Stars My Destination
The Day of the Triffids
Startide Rising
Eon
Lucifer's Hammer
The City and the Stars
Old Man's War
Citizen of the Galaxy
The Puppet Masters
Stormlight Archive (can't wait for the next one)
Red Rising series
Lightbringer series (can't wait for the next one)
mindless but entertaining:
The Lost Fleet series
Farseer series
Safehold series
Night Angel trilogy
Neuromancer
Rendevous with Rama
Hyperion
Childhood's End
The Forever War
Snow Crash
The Mote in God's Eye
Lord of Light
Gateway
The Stars My Destination
The Day of the Triffids
Startide Rising
Eon
Lucifer's Hammer
The City and the Stars
Old Man's War
Citizen of the Galaxy
The Puppet Masters
Stormlight Archive (can't wait for the next one)
Red Rising series
Lightbringer series (can't wait for the next one)
mindless but entertaining:
The Lost Fleet series
Farseer series
Safehold series
Night Angel trilogy
This post was edited on 5/2/19 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 6:19 pm to auyushu
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Black company isn't super philosophical or nearly as "throw you into the action and show not tell" as Malazan though.
Would you recommend any other high fantasy similar to Malazan?
My two favorite series are Dune and Malazan. I actually much prefer 4-6 of Dune because Frank Herbert tackles prescience in such a cool, complex way. God Emperor is probably my favorite book of all time. Erikson does a very good job with a variety of things well but none so well done or difficult as Herbert. Erikson’s take on elder races is really well done. I thought that most of them were very cool and unique.
Id love a suggestion on a series that has the character personality depth of Erikson or the fringe science depth of Herbert if anyone had any suggestions. I’d be grateful.
Posted on 5/7/19 at 9:48 pm to ShamelessPel
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Id love a suggestion on a series that has the character personality depth of Erikson or the fringe science depth of Herbert if anyone had any suggestions. I’d be grateful.
I'm going to start off by saying that I love the Dune series, and really love books 5 and 6 best behind book 1, but I really didn't like God Emperor all that much, so take my suggestions here with that in mind (I'm a huge plot and characters person, and God Emp's plot was pretty weak and turned me off).
But, if God Emperor is your favorite book of all time and you love Malazan then you might want to try R Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing trilogy, and possibly his 4 book quartet that follows it. The followup quartet got a little too bogged down in philosophy and author wank on page for my taste so I stopped after the second book, but I thought the first trilogy was excellent. It has solid world building and a very Atreides style main character.
You might want to give Black Company a try sometime too if you haven't, it is quite good and very high magic with some Malazan style elements.
It's not really similar to Malazan per say, but NK Jemison's Broken Earth trilogy is really high magic, fairly philosophical, and exceptionally well written, so it might be a good bet too.
As far as Sci fi goes, it's tough to compare anything to Dune. Hyperion hits on some of the philosophical elements, but doesn't have the space opera scope, though I like that series a bunch.
The Gap series by Stephen R Donaldson hits alot of the space opera elements and is one of my favorites (though be forewarned that the first book isn't very space operaish and not nearly as good as the rest of the series, though it is very short to make up for that).
Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light would be an excellent read if you haven't read it.
This post was edited on 5/7/19 at 9:49 pm
Posted on 5/7/19 at 11:29 pm to auyushu
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God Emperor is your favorite book of all time and you love Malazan then you might want to try R Scott Bakker's Prince of Nothing trilogy, and possibly his 4 book quartet that follows it. The followup quartet got a little too bogged down in philosophy and author wank on page for my taste so I stopped after the second book, but I thought the first trilogy was excellent. It has solid world building and a very Atreides style main character.
You might want to give Black Company a try sometime too if you haven't, it is quite good and very high magic with some Malazan style elements.
It's not really similar to Malazan per say, but NK Jemison's Broken Earth trilogy is really high magic, fairly philosophical, and exceptionally well written, so it might be a good bet too.
As far as Sci fi goes, it's tough to compare anything to Dune. Hyperion hits on some of the philosophical elements, but doesn't have the space opera scope, though I like that series a bunch.
The Gap series by Stephen R Donaldson hits alot of the space opera elements and is one of my favorites (though be forewarned that the first book isn't very space operaish and not nearly as good as the rest of the series, though it is very short to make up for that).
Roger Zelazny's Lord of Light would be an excellent read if you haven't read it.
Well thank you very much for taking the time to type that. I appreciate it.
I’m going to start with the Broken Earth trilogy I think. I was looking up description and saw each book in the trilogy won the Hugo Award three years straight.
Posted on 5/8/19 at 9:34 am to ShamelessPel
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I’m going to start with the Broken Earth trilogy I think. I was looking up description and saw each book in the trilogy won the Hugo Award three years straight.
Ya, I just finished up that series. It will definitely make you think and look at things from a new perspective and is just a very unique setting and concept. Books 2 and 3 are definitely up there with some of my favorites and Book 1 is a strong introduction to the world and all.
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