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Posted on 3/29/21 at 7:14 pm to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 7:14 pm to
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Martin working on several more projects for HBO - Winds of winter may happen at sone point but the series is definitly got getting finiahed
Posted by You_R_Here
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Posted on 3/31/21 at 6:48 pm to
Currently reading the second of the Kingkiller Chronicles The Wise Man’s Fear. Really enjoying it but would enjoy it a little more if the series were finished.

The Witcher series isn’t BAD, but it reads like a translation, ya know? Like, it would be SO MUCH better to read it in the author’s native Polish.
If you haven’t read it, you might give it a go. Reads VERY quickly as the language is so simplistic and maybe even a bit repetitive. Good to read when you don’t have time or energy for anything too complex.
This series IS done, though.

Still waiting on Winds of Winter and Eternal Spring from George R. R. Martin.
I swear if he hasn’t put pen to paper in a serious way during all this lockdown business, I’m going to be so frustrated!
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 10:05 am to
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I swear if he hasn’t put pen to paper in a serious way during all this lockdown business, I’m going to be so frustrated!


Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 11:16 am to
He just got contracted for several more HBA spinoffs - nail in the coffin
Posted by BloodSweat&Beers
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 1:25 pm to
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He just got contracted for several more HBA spinoffs - nail in the coffin


Just give me a show about the adventures of young lads later known as Ser Duncan the Tall and King Aegon V Targaryen
Posted by You_R_Here
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Posted on 4/1/21 at 7:57 pm to
Ouch. :D
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Posted by Clockwatcher68
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 10:33 pm to
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Still waiting on Winds of Winter and Eternal Spring from George R. R. Martin.


I don’t think it’s happening. If they closed the tv series based on his outline, then we’ve already read the best of asoiaf. If he tries to change it up due to criticism of the series ending, 99% chance he jumps the shark. My expectations hit the ground without a parachute.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 4/3/21 at 6:50 am to
Dude will always have GOAT fantasy series after 2 or 3 books trophy i suppose
Posted by Raistlins Apprentice
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:15 pm to
This would be a fun exercise, though probably with a lot of disagreement. For instance, I would not have Martin anywhere near these trophies.

I think Anthony Ryan gets the GOAT fantasy series after 1 book as that was the best first novel I ever read. Then things went haywire.

After that it gets hard and pretty subjective.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 3:31 pm to
He would be the consensus though, my list would probably be different
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 4/6/21 at 6:26 pm to
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For instance, I would not have Martin anywhere near these trophies.


You'd be in the minority if we were talking about after Storm of Swords came out though, very few series would be considered on par with ASOIAF by most people after the first three books.

I agree that Blood Song would definitely be up there as one of the best first novels ever, and is better than Game of Thrones as a first book (Lies of Locke Lamora would be up there too for books on the last 20 years or so I think).
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 2:54 pm to
Children of Time by Adrian Tchaikovsky.

Lots of cool shite in this book. It’s thousands of years in the future and humans have terraformed distant planets to live on because earth sucks now. They develop a virus that speeds up evolution, and are gonna drop some monkeys on a planet to spread the human race that way. But little do they know, the virus works on other creatures too....
Posted by spehog
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Posted on 4/7/21 at 7:06 pm to
I’m glad you said that about Lies of Locke. I’m little over halfway through. My friend who I convince to read Wheel of Time said I have to read gentleman bastards. Switching between that, expanse (on book 6) and mistborn (on wax and Wayne 2). Wanting to get to stormlight archive series.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/8/21 at 8:54 am to
Man, Rise of Endymion second half was a slog. Minor Spoilers below I suppose.


I loved Endymion and then the first half of Rise but they got to that Mountain / Buddhist world and it just ground to a halt. Massive lists of names, no chemistry between Raul and Aenea, random sex scenes. The kicker was the excessive philosophical / quasi-science debate - Simmons would just rehash and rehash that shite way too much.

Glad I finished it but felt like he really dropped the ball in the 2nd half of the book.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/9/21 at 7:16 am to
Started up Book of Jhereg by Steven Brust and got through about 100 pages, really enjoying it so far.

He has put out about 15 of these 150 pages stories thus far it looks like, my book has the 1st 3. Has similar feel to Riyria and some other stories, assassin / mob house takes on a big last job - but with a mob twist as opposed to Royalty / high fantasy elements (kind of like Lies of Locke in that regard), he has some creatures and some twists so it just feels original and really well done.

Goodreads has awesome ratings for almost all the books, worth checking it out if you want something quick and easy
This post was edited on 4/9/21 at 7:54 am
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 4/11/21 at 8:11 pm to
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Started up Book of Jhereg by Steven Brust and got through about 100 pages, really enjoying it so far.


Brust's Vlad Taltos books are a ton of fun. As you said it's a similar tone to Riyria and Gentleman Bastards. The only issue with Brust is his pace of putting out books slowed to a crawl starting about 2000ish, and about half the books he's put out in that series between 2000-2020 have been prequels in terms of timeline (he's always bounced around the timeline with his Vlad books though).

Looks like he's released one more since I last looked at those books around 2015ish, and has another out soon. Guess I'll have to add those to my list once it comes out.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 4/18/21 at 2:19 pm to
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Shocking Report: Martin is behind on Winds of Winter!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 8:56 pm to
Question for the people of this thread.

If I wanted to read fantasy, etc that is also quite respected as a literary work (aesthetic prose, powerful themes, etc), what would be your recommendations?

I've been doing some research of this question, and these are some fantasy books I have seen referenced as very good from a literary, critical perspective.

1) The book of the new sun by gene wolf

2) Little, big by John Crowley

3) Gormenghast by mervyn peake

4) Winter's tale by mark helprin

5) Tigana by Guy Kay

6) The last unicorn by peter beagle
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:07 pm to
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If I wanted to read fantasy, etc that is also quite respected as a literary work (aesthetic prose, powerful themes, etc), what would be your recommendations?



I just read Tigana it was loving it up through 2/3s and then had some weird stuff and didn't have a stellar finish but it was solid.

That is the only one of those that I have read, but I am about to read Gormenghast, heard great things.

I will probably read Book of the New Sun at some point, but have heard pretty mixed reviews.

Haven't heard of the rest of them.

ETA: I don't know if it is literary and respected, but something like Stranger in a Strange Land by Heinlein may be what you are looking for. Also Lord of Light by Zelazny has some pretty interesting themes.
This post was edited on 4/19/21 at 9:09 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 4/19/21 at 9:34 pm to
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Haven't heard of the rest of them


This is what is so noteworthy to me

If you read up on what fantasy novels over the last 35 years or so are the most respected by critics, “Little, Big” by John Crowley is almost always at the top

Yet most avid readers of fantasy have NEVER heard of the book. Despite it winning many awards when it came out in 1985.

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