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re: On the last book of Wheel of Time. Need recomendations

Posted on 5/23/18 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 1:11 pm to
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GRRM and Robert Jordan have killed my trust


Jordan got sick and died, he deserves a bit of break on that one - at least he left notes and it got finished.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 5:38 pm to
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Jordan got sick and died, he deserves a bit of break on that one - at least he left notes and it got finished.



Yea that's fair. And he did release a book like every 2 years
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 5:41 pm to
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Have you read Elantris? If so, what did you think?




I haven't checked out Elantris. I've read most of Sanderson's other stuff, but never got around to trying that. Loved the first Stormlight book, but like you I'm tired of being burned on long series and decided to wait until he finished after I found out it was going to be ten books total.

I thought the original Mistborn series was solid but not amazing. But I love the hell out of the Wax and Wayne books and his book Warbreaker.

Sanderson's Reckoners series is really good too if you are interested in a more realistic take on what would happen if superpowers were real.
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 5:53 pm to
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Ya, I haven't found much comparable world-building series with the same scope. Is The Faithful and The Fallen similar to those two - haven't read that one.



The faithful and fallen isn't on the same scope of worldbuilding as Malazan and WOT (but then I don't really know of really any other series that are). It's more of just the overall feel of the series gave me a little of the old school fantasy vibe. But it's one of the better new series I've read.

Gwynne, Mark Lawrence, Miles Cameron,Peter V. Brett, Sebastien de Castell, Django Wexler, Brian McClellan, and Jon Hornor Jacobs (Incorruptibles series) are all kinda newer guys who have really good series, and more importantly, good finished series.

If you are looking for something somewhat close to Malazan to a certain extent I'd say Glen Cook's Black Company books are very good and close there. Erikson basically got the idea for the Malazan company soldiers from being a fan of those books.
This post was edited on 5/23/18 at 5:59 pm
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 6:01 pm to
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I really really Liked Lies of Locke Lamora (Btw that might be the best title ever) but I couldn't get into the second book. That first one is one of my favorites and I feel it stands on it's own well.


Yeah, that book is one of my favorites over the past 20 years or so. But books 2 and 3 were just sort of okay (though 3 is a hell of a lot better than 2). I tend to recommend Lies to people as a stand alone too.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 7:48 pm to
Elantris is good. It's obvious that it's his first novel and it's a little rough but the world and magic system is very much Sanderson. There is no one who handles magic better than that man.

I'll pick up Warbreaker soon after I finish Wax and Wayne.

I've heard about Reckoners but it's never really interested me. Maybe I'll give it a shot
Posted by auyushu
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 8:45 pm to
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I've heard about Reckoners but it's never really interested me. Maybe I'll give it a shot




I kinda did on a whim, wasn't expecting much and liked it a good deal.

I'll have to check out Elantris sometime, I've mainly avoided it since I knew it was his first work and I found the writing and characterization in Mistborn to be a little rough, and all his books from that point on have been tremendously better written with far more interesting characters.

He really is the best there is in terms of magic systems by far.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/23/18 at 9:22 pm to
The characters in Elantris.... well they're not great. But it's an interesting premise with an excellent world and Sanderson magic.

Plus a standalone fantasy story is such a breathe of fresh air. Sometimes you don't need 3-18 books and 20 years to tell a good story
Posted by meeple
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Posted on 5/24/18 at 9:33 pm to
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Ya, I haven't found much comparable world-building series with the same scope.

Check out the Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson. Same author that finished up WOT series after Jordan’s death.
Posted by ShrevetownTiger
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 8:46 am to
I've seen a lot of people mention Sanderson, he's one of my favorites, but I haven't seen many mention The Reckoners series and yes, it's finished! It's a Superhero trilogy set in a post-apocalyptic world. I really enjoyed reading it and would recommend it. 1st book is named Steelheart.
Posted by Palo Gaucho
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Posted on 5/25/18 at 12:42 pm to
Sanderson's Stormlight Archive
Posted by llfshoals
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Posted on 5/26/18 at 10:29 pm to
Safehold series by Dave Weber
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 12:55 pm to
Guys, I have an issue.

Around 2 years ago, I started reading WOT. I got to around halfway through book 4 and then stopped because I started getting distracted with other books and stuff. I have probably forgotten a lot of stuff so far.

I don't feel like rereading the first 4 books, so what can I do to "refresh my memory" on the series and jump back in where I left off? Is the WOT wiki good enough?
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 2:28 pm to
They have blogs for re-reads on the TOR wheel of time website. Summarizes what has happened, etc.

Also if you jump in and just start reading you will pick it up, it isn't that complicated to figure out who does what. Its not like you keep that many parts moving straight as you read anyway.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/28/18 at 8:03 pm to
So guys I just finished reading the Wax and Wayne Saga of the Mistborn series by Brandon Sanderson. I can't recommend it enough. So much fun
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 9:21 am to
Just bought the original 3 mistborn box set last night to start on when I finish final book of Malazan reread.

They seem like pretty easy readers and not some of the goliath novels you sometimes get. Hoping to get back on a big reading kick and knock all three out next weekend / week if I can finish malazan quickly.

Also bought first book of the black company.

Will be nice to get back to some of this easier reading after the Malazan gauntlet - kind of why I recommend people to split up Malazan into sections and read I something else in between or even to read something else after every book.
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 8:32 am
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 5/29/18 at 6:17 pm to
Sanderson is super easy reading.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:16 am to
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Will be nice to get back to some of this easier reading after the Malazan gauntlet


Reading the Malazan series is a process, not a leisurely stroll

But man oh man is the payoff ever worth it.


------Possible Minor Spoilers Below--------------





I mean how can you not read Beak's final scene and not have your jaw hit the floor? Then the follow up scene with Hood?
This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 9:18 am
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:22 am to
Oh its totally worth it, especially on the re-read. Rarely do i close a book and just sort of sit and think about what I just read - but is happens in nearly every Malazan Book at some point.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 5/30/18 at 9:28 am to
One thing Erickson did absolutely brilliantly is to really make you consider the consequences of being immortal.

This post was edited on 5/30/18 at 9:30 am
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