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re: Never thought I’d live in a time where I was worried if I’ll be able to get certain books

Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:10 am to
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:10 am to
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Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:12 am to
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I spend hundreds of dollars on used books every year.


Well you’re going to have to up it to the 4 digits if you want If I Ran a Zoo because it’s going for $1500 right now.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:13 am to
In both cases the company made a business decisions. Seems like the announcement of 6 dr suess books going out of print will probably spike sales.

Perhaps they did this to cater to the woke mob - but if so, they did it because in their eyes they are going to make more money doing so.

Maybe they decided to consolidate the number of dr suess works currently in print and realized they could spike discussion and sales by tying it into a woke framework.

In the end, it was a business decision that companies are allowed to make. Maybe another company can purchase publishing rights and put these 6 books back in print.
Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:14 am to
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These books were discontinued secondary to poor sales and monetary loss?


Next to Michael Jackson’s family, Dr Seuss’ make more money on royalties than any other family associated with entertainment.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:14 am to
Well luckily i dont think ran a zoo is significant to me. I am trying to find a hardcover of deadhouse gates for under $100 though
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:15 am to
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In both cases the company made a business decisions. Seems like the announcement of 6 dr suess books going out of print will probably spike sales.

Perhaps they did this to cater to the woke mob - but if so, they did it because in their eyes they are going to make more money doing so.

Maybe they decided to consolidate the number of dr suess works currently in print and realized they could spike discussion and sales by tying it into a woke framework.

In the end, it was a business decision that companies are allowed to make. Maybe another company can purchase publishing rights and put these 6 books back in print.


Get the frick out of here with this bullshite. It’s for all intents and purposes book burning.
Posted by DaleGribble
Bend, OR
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:17 am to
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Well luckily i dont think ran a zoo is significant to me. I am trying to find a hardcover of deadhouse gates for under $100 though




Thank goodness. Because this is all clearly about YOU.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:19 am to
They only stopped printing 6 dr suess books.

If their analysis indicated that not banning these books was more likely to result in ling term profits, they wouldnt have done it.

Sure they are reacting to the public woke movement and market tastes and trends, but that is capitalism. Should somebody tell them they have to keep it in print?
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 9:22 am
Posted by thedrumdoctor
Gonzales,La
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:25 am to
You're getting downvoted, but I agree with you.
It's ok if a baker doesn't want to serve a lesbian couple, but it's not okay if a publishing company wants to stop printing certain things because of their intrinsic values.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:26 am to
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but it's not okay if a publishing company wants to stop printing certain things because of their intrinsic values.


But that's not why they stopped publishing those books.

Posted by thedrumdoctor
Gonzales,La
Member since Sep 2016
893 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:28 am to
The reason doesn't matter. The company can do anything they want. Y'all want freedom right? Or do y'all just want it when it agrees with you?


Edit to clarify: I agreed with the bakery refusing service to whoever they wanted. I agree with the publishing company deciding not to continue printing certain books.
Honestly, I don't even know the reason that the Dr. Seuss books are the subject of this new controversy, and frankly, I don't care. If you support true freedom, then you support companies making whatever decisions they want. As long as no one is physically harmed.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 9:33 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:32 am to
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That is exactly what is happening.


No, what is happening is the publisher is no longer printing new copies.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:33 am to
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They only stopped printing 6 dr suess books.


That’s like saying they only banned Hamlet, Macbeth, and Julius Caesar of Shakespeare’s plays. Hey you’ve got 30 more, so why should you care. By the way we’ve also completely stopped printing Tom Sawyer and Huckleberry Finn, but we’ll continue printing the rest of Mark Twain’s books, so no reason to complain.

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If their analysis indicated that not banning these books was more likely to result in ling term profits, they wouldnt have done it.


bullshite. If I Ran a Zoo is probably in his top 15.

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Sure they are reacting to the public woke movement and market tastes and trends, but that is capitalism. Should somebody tell them they have to keep it in print?


Wake up dude, we’re not living in capitalism right now, we’re living in oligarchical fascism. Fascism is neither a right nor left wing ideology, but when the corporate merging with the state at the individual’s expense. They’re wanting to make sure we no longer get the wrong ideas or step out of line again.
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
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Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:34 am to
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Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
44048 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:34 am to
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The company can do anything they want.


Well of course they can. I have no issue with them wanting to stop publishing books.

But let's not pretend it was of their own volition due to their "values". They were pressured by academia, and knew they had to do something before the mob really came after them.



Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
117998 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:35 am to
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It's ok if a baker doesn't want to serve a lesbian couple, but it's not okay if a publishing company wants to stop printing certain things because of their intrinsic values.


It’s bullshite if you buy an intellectual property just to bury it and never allow it to see the light of day. I really think if you sit on some trademark or copyright for 5 years and deliberately do nothing with it and refuse to distribute it, then it should go in public domain.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18048 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:36 am to
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If you support true freedom, then you support companies making whatever decisions they want. As long as no one is physically harmed.



Is it really "freedom" when you're making decisions based on the whims of a mob? I don't think it is
Posted by THRILLHO
Metry, LA
Member since Apr 2006
49976 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:37 am to
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f you support true freedom, then you support companies making whatever decisions they want.


I don't see anyone here clamoring for the government to force them to continue printing books. Supporting freedom and disagreeing with freely made decisions aren't mutually exclusive. The argument you're making boils down to "Unless someone is physically harmed, then all bad choices are above scrutiny", and it's ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/4/21 at 9:38 am
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:37 am to
We are living in the same American capitalism we have had for decades. I think it needs a lot of work personally.

And again, it isnt banned. If people decide that ran a zoo is important enough then it will be printed again
Posted by thedrumdoctor
Gonzales,La
Member since Sep 2016
893 posts
Posted on 3/4/21 at 9:38 am to
I get it, but why is that offensive?
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