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Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:53 pm to
Anybody know if the cast listings that Rotten Tomatoes has under future episodes have any resemblance to the actual cast for that episode?

Cause for Hardhome they have a mighty interesting canine nicknamed one.

I kind of figured they just put random cast members there (cause they also have Bran listed and I know I read somewhere that he is not in this season at all). But with the casting news about someone who might be Maribald for next year, I'm kind of re-thinking that.
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 8:57 pm to
Pretty sure they are specific to episodes

Semi spoiler?: there's a White Walker cast credit for the season finale

Is that fair game in here?


ETA I don't think RTs is accurate but IMDBs is
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 9:00 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:24 pm to
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ETA I don't think RTs is accurate but IMDBs is

Yep. RT used a generic "series" casting, while IMDB used an episode specific casting. That's why the IMDB has the Night's King, a white walker and a wight listed for the next episode.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:33 pm to
What are y'all's thoughts: will we see White Walkers and the Night's King in Hardhome? Or are they going to break the Wall at the end of the S5 finale?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:39 pm to
Think Hardhome is attacked. We see wilding bows being fired so I'm guessing they are fighting them. Think Jon barely escaped through the Wall with the Ealkers closing in. As he is instructing his men to seal the gates, young steward boy stabs him followed by the others. What's going to suck is watching Thorne stab him last. You know it's coming with the animosity they have built there.
Posted by Snatchy
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:41 pm to
IMDB has been wrong all season. The last episode they said that there would be no Dany and the Night's King. It has been updated afterwards. Just saying.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:43 pm to
So you think the Wildlings and Jon will be fighting the Others in Hardhome? Could explain the 'dead things' in the water that Cotter Pyke sees as wights.

I definitely think Thorne and the Olly kid are going to stab Jon.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:45 pm to
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What are y'all's thoughts: will we see White Walkers and the Night's King in Hardhome?

I think we see at least one white walker and some wights. Keep in mind that Sam gave Jon some dragon glass blades, so I'm guessing those will come into play.

But I'm not sure how the Night's King plays into it since the Night's King lived over 1,000 years before. I'm guessing we see him in a flashback, but that is just a guess on my part.
Posted by ladytiger118
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:48 pm to
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Keep in mind that Sam gave Jon some dragon glass blades, so I'm guessing those will come into play.

Definitely. I tend to think that we are way overdue for some Walkers and Wights; we haven't seen any since last season. Plus a lot of my Hodor friends have been asking me why they haven't shown them in a while and I don't have an answer for them. I just have a gut feeling that they're going to be back very soon.

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But I'm not sure how the Night's King plays into it since the Night's King lived over 1,000 years before. I'm guessing we see him in a flashback, but that is just a guess on my part.

You sure that wasn't the Night's King who turned Craster's baby in S4? Not sure who else it could've been.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:48 pm to
Yeah I think they will be on the verge of fighting each other and the White Walkers will roll up on a bunch of dead bears and mammoths and stuff. Then they fight, then Jon and the Wildlings flee.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 9:56 pm
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:48 pm to
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The last episode they said that there would be no Dany and the Night's King.

Really? I looked it up last Friday or Saturday and it had the Night's King showing up for this episode, not last (I didn't look for Dany though, so I don't know about that).
Posted by Snatchy
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:51 pm to
Maybe I'm confused. If Dany is not in this episode, you are correct. If Dany appears, IMDB iz confuse.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 9:55 pm to
FWIW, I think "outside" people can edit IMDB. That's where all the Michelle Fairley stuff came up with Lady Stoneheart where she was on there before the season started and then it was removed.
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/26/15 at 10:00 pm to
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Maybe I'm confused. If Dany is not in this episode, you are correct. If Dany appears, IMDB iz confuse.

No, you're right about Dany. Tyrion is showing for this episode, so She should be there as well. And Sansa is showing, but Theon and/or Ramsey isn't. Yet we saw in the previews that Dany and Theon at least should be in this upcoming episode.

I'm not saying that IMDB is perfect, but they at least try and get some of the characters per episode, while Rotten Tomato apparently does a series wide listing.
This post was edited on 5/26/15 at 10:02 pm
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:30 am to
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You sure that wasn't the Night's King who turned Craster's baby in S4? Not sure who else it could've been.

That's who I thought it was. Or at least I figure there's a good possibility that was the Night's King.
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 7:49 am to
Why is everyone calling the big white walker guy the Nights King? That was the Night's watch guy who tried to declare himself king wasn't it?
Posted by Bamatab
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 8:31 am to
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That was the Night's watch guy who tried to declare himself king wasn't it?

Yeah, back in the Age of Heroes. Here is a link to the wiki page about him: Night's King Link

If that was the Night's King that they showed turning babies into white walkers, then he's been alive for thousands of years.

ETA: Here is also a link to the wiki page of the "White Walker's master": White Walker's master link

I had forgot that he had black armor. I guess it is possibly that he is the Night's King, and has been around for thousands of years. We are talking about zombie ice people for goodness sake.
This post was edited on 5/27/15 at 8:45 am
Posted by Mr. Wayne
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:25 am to
Damn... The Night King killed Bruce Wayne's parents
Posted by SundayFunday
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 9:48 am to
Well that's a big possible hint. the book hasn't said much about him but the show may be hinting at it now. I don't remember what happened to him in the book, possibly was killed during the revolt, but there was a big theory he was married to a white walker in a peace pact between men and white walkers. He could have turned into one somehow or the show could be just making up the white walker king character entirely.
Posted by Methuselah
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Posted on 5/27/15 at 1:32 pm to
Crackpot theory that I sometimes entertain: The White Walkers are actually the good guys. Night King is a tragic misunderstood character that only ever wanted peace.

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Damn... The Night King killed Bruce Wayne's parents

Dude looks a lot like a Nazgul if that is him pressing "click" on Craster's baby.

Speaking of Craster, if Gilly's baby would ever age past infancy GRRM could someday devise a plot where he is either opposed to (or somehow gets recruited to secretly help) all his half brothers.

Ok, enough random thoughts for now. Can episode 8 please get here.
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