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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:21 pm to
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:21 pm to
She's got to make it back soon after ADWD. The Khalasar finds her, but she's been riding Drogon and shite, so I feel like she will take them over or burn them all.

If she takes them over like I think she'll arrive at Mereen with them as shits goin down with Barristan. She will wreck the city and then they all sail back with Victorian especially if they have a horn that can control the dragons.

She has to go soon cause it's fricking snowing in KL
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:24 pm to
If Dany hasn't left for Westeros by the end of TWoW I'm going to GRRM's house and protesting.
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:33 pm to
They really have to make it back. Mereen is in a world of shite right now and they don't have anywhere else to go except Westeros.

How in the world does she not have a fricking tan by now?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 6:49 pm to
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They really have to make it back. Mereen is in a world of shite right now and they don't have anywhere else to go except Westeros. How in the world does she not have a fricking tan by now?


I'm actually looking forward to Dany's plot next book. She no longer has an option to stay there and must flee as soon as humanly possible. The Free Cities, New Ghis, the other Slaver Cities, Qarth, and anyone else these cities can find are going to go gang up on her and try to destroy her and her dragons. Fortunately Dany is not completely trapped anymore since she'll now have a fleet of Ironborn, but she'll still be sailing right into a trap.

I think they'll first run into an New Ghis fleet who does a number on them, and find out that every fleet east of the Narrow Sea is heading straight for them and will kill them all. If they go East, they'll run into Qarth's fleet, and if they go West they run into the Free Cities'.

Tyrion would propose that they now only had one option, toss the dice and sail through the Smoking Sea in hopes that the Free Cities' fleets have made their way around Valyria. I'm not sure what will happen when they get to Valyria, but Dany will find out something about dragon binding, and Tyrion will find Brightroar. There will be something horrifying there, but most of our major characters will make it through.
Posted by CE Tiger
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:01 pm to
well spent the past 2 hours reading the Northern Conspiracy and really cant see any evidence against it
Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:04 pm to
What's the over/under on more dragons to show up? There could be a dragon under Winterfell, and maybe one in the Wall.

Are there going to be dragons that battle each other, or does Dany have the only 3?

To me the only way the war against the Others is one is with dragons burning them. I know Lightbringer will come back somehow, but is the one sword gonna do everything?

It's probably not really a sword.

Posted by putt23
Pingree Grove, IL
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:04 pm to
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well spent the past 2 hours reading the Northern Conspiracy and really cant see any evidence against it


man I love that, it has to be true
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 7:26 pm to
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meh...i doubt that.



Alliser Thorne would for sure.



I could see how a few of the NW members would know Dayne but he made it sound like most of everyone in the realm would recognize him. I'd say that less than 5% of the NW would recognize him considering that most of them are former thieves, rapists, etc. that spent much of their time in Flea Bottom - far away from the king and his kingsguard.
Posted by skirpnasty
Atlantis
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 9:53 pm to
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What's the over/under on more dragons to show up? There could be a dragon under Winterfell, and maybe one in the Wall.


Horn wakes/binds dragons. Horn brings down the wall. I see no reason that the huge arse wall, that never melts and is magical, couldn't have dragons in it.

Also, here is the last of the new Tyrion chapter:
quote:

The white cyvasse dragon ended up at Tyrion's feet. He scooped it off the carpet and wiped it on his sleeve, but some of the Yunkish blood had collected in the fine grooves of the carving, so the pale wood seemed veined with red. "All hail our beloved queen, Daenerys." Be she alive or be she dead. He tossed the bloody dragon in the air, caught it, grinned.


There isn't currently a white dragon veined with red in play. However, the last Targ egg (disappeared in the mystery knight) was white with red spots. If it was taken by Bloodraven, as many suspect, then North is where we should find it. Between the possibilities, I think the probability of more dragons showing up is pretty high.
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:36 pm to
Personally I'm not a fan of the "Rhaegar and Arthur Dayne disguised themselves as Mance and Qhorin Halfhand" theories that the nerdy guy with glasses and his mom on Youtube put out there.

Here's the video
Posted by tween the hedges
Member since Feb 2012
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Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:45 pm to
Question about JS. Assuming he isn't dead and somehow remains with the wall, does he remain Lord Commander. Is that something you can be impeached from or is it pretty much until death?
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/21/14 at 11:50 pm to
Honestly, I think he's done with his time as Lord Commander now, and some fans greatly disagree with that opinion/viewpoint. The Night's Watch basically booted him out; GRRM used that as a way for Jon to 'honorably' leave so that he can prepare for bigger matters in the last 2 books--he killed the boy, and we're about to see the man be born.
Posted by leoj
Member since Nov 2010
3107 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 12:38 am to
I know I'm late but I don't have HBO and just watched Saturday's episode on the internet...man the Jaime/Cersei scene sucked. Way to get his redemption started off on the wrong foot..
Posted by auyushu
Surprise, AZ
Member since Jan 2011
9980 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 2:13 am to
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I could see how a few of the NW members would know Dayne but he made it sound like most of everyone in the realm would recognize him. I'd say that less than 5% of the NW would recognize him considering that most of them are former thieves, rapists, etc. that spent much of their time in Flea Bottom - far away from the king and his kingsguard.



A lot more than 5% would recognize him. While a good portion of the watch are former criminals, a good portion is not. Most of the leadership is former knights/lords in their later years (like Mormont and the elder knight Sam convinced to vote for Jon for LC) , third or further down the line sons of major houses(like Benjen), or bastard sons of major houses.

All of the above that were old enough would easily know Dayne on sight. Dayne was one of the most famous knight in the realm, and had been to tons of tourneys.
Posted by Porter Osborne Jr
Member since Sep 2012
43778 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:00 am to
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Question about JS. Assuming he isn't dead and somehow remains with the wall, does he remain Lord Commander. Is that something you can be impeached from or is it pretty much until death?
There are ways around it if he's not dead. I think most believe he dies and is reborn. That would release him from his oath.
Posted by Putty
Member since Oct 2003
25911 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:29 am to
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How in the world does she not have a fricking tan by now?


Cause the sun is fire and she's immune.
Posted by ffishstik
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/22/14 at 9:43 am to
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the pale wood seemed veined with red


Like a Weirwood.

In ASOS in the Davos chapter where he returns to Dragonstone intent on killing Mel, he is told that Stannis and Mel have been going into Dragonmont and into places where only she could go without being burned. Maybe they find more eggs or one of the wild dragons from TP&TQ. At this point, they would pretty much have to find a living dragon. I think half of the reason why Martin has had Dany in Slaver's Bay for so long is that enough time had to be given for the dragons to get big enough to ride before returning to Westeros.

Not sure if it happens the same way as Landshark laid it out, but I do believe that they end up going to Valyria, probably while the GNC is unfolding in Westeros. Euron has sailed the Smoking Sea before, I don't think that Martin included that in the story just for the hell of it.
Posted by i drink the kool aid
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2013
169 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:34 am to
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Honestly, I think he's done with his time as Lord Commander now, and some fans greatly disagree with that opinion/viewpoint. The Night's Watch basically booted him out; GRRM used that as a way for Jon to 'honorably' leave so that he can prepare for bigger matters in the last 2 books--he killed the boy, and we're about to see the man be born.


I keep reading theories on Jon Snow not being dead. Has there been any confirmation at all that he is definitely going to live after being stabbed?
Posted by Gugich22
Who Dat Nation
Member since Jan 2006
27813 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:39 am to
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Has there been any confirmation at all that he is definitely going to live after being stabbed?



has there been any confirmation that he's actually dead?
Posted by ladytiger118
Member since Aug 2009
20922 posts
Posted on 4/22/14 at 10:45 am to
There's been no confirmation that he's dead. So we'll find out for sure when TWoW is released in 2018 .
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