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Posted on 9/3/12 at 12:44 am to
Just read this whole thread
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Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:09 am to
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Aside from maybe Varys, who is even close to Littlefinger in this regard? I've pretty much proved he's the instigator of the entire series up to the point I've finished, and few people suspect him even though they can see he's growing more and more powerful. The only people who can see Littlefinger for what he really is are Varys and Tyrion.


Trust me. He's not the instigator of the entire series. He may want to be but there are those who have a bigger hand in what is going down.

I don't want to say more because you're avoiding spoilers.
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:23 am to
Ned Stark's sister
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Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:26 am to
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Aside from maybe Varys, who is even close to Littlefinger in this regard? I've pretty much proved he's the instigator of the entire series up to the point I've finished, and few people suspect him even though they can see he's growing more and more powerful. The only people who can see Littlefinger for what he really is are Varys and Tyrion.




Just once again Varys > Littlefinger.

Go read ADWD
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:30 am to
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Without Littlefinger, Ned Stark wouldn't have come to King's Landing and shaken up the entire system. Without Littlefinger, Jamie and Cersei wouldn't have been arguing and then having sex afterwords and throwing Bran off the tower. I don't see how he's not an instigator. Here's all I can think of as the primary instigators in the series at least at this point:


There are larger things at play then Littlefinger. I'd consider him more of a facilitator. He's a player but he's not THE player if that makes sense.

As said, it's tough to give you reasons why because you haven't read A Dance with Dragons.
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:32 am to
Littlefinger is a lot less complex than the other major players and has a huge weakness with his boner for Sansa.
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Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:34 am to
I think of Littlefinger as either the guy who thinks he's the power behind the scenes, but is actually being manipulated, himself into helping inact the plans of some greater mastermind (Varys and Illyrio come to mind).

Or, he's the rogue player who has come in to the game and is throwing wrenches into all of these massive plans that he is completely ignorant of.

Regardless, I think it's all going to come back to bite him in the arse and somehow make us all a bit more depressed in the process (typical GRRM style).
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:34 am to
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Alright, I can see this. I just thought you were somewhat implying that he was falsely deluding himself into thinking he was a player at all.


I think most would agree he's a player. But he's playing to elevate himself. There are other players who have intentions far bigger then that and with larger influence then he has when it comes to the crown.

The closest Littlefinger would likely get to the crown is on the Council via lands he may attempt to acquire through Sansa. And that's certainly no guarantee.
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:35 am to
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Alright, I can see this. I just thought you were somewhat implying that he was falsely deluding himself into thinking he was a player at all.



No hes a factor, hes just not the MVP
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Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:39 am to
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Personally right now I'm thinking Varys is working with Danerys behind the scenes to get her back on the Iron Throne. Danerys herself hasn't encountered him yet at all, but he's instigating preparing Westeros for her arrival, while Illyrio prepares from the East.




Oh but its so much thicker than that
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:41 am to
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Personally right now I'm thinking Varys is working with Danerys behind the scenes to get her back on the Iron Throne. Danerys herself hasn't encountered him yet at all, but he's instigating preparing Westeros for her arrival, while Illyrio prepares from the East.


Tehehehe. Your theories are so cute when you haven't finished the books yet. I remember that naive time.
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:42 am to
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The closest Littlefinger would likely get to the crown is on the Council via lands he may attempt to acquire through Sansa. And that's certainly no guarantee.




Sansa will take him out before all is said and done...

I'm convinced
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Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 9/3/12 at 1:43 am to
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Just read this whole thread




Jesus Christ how long did that take?
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