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re: Transfer portal has ruined college sports!!!
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:30 am to Forever
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:30 am to Forever
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The entire thing is stupid as frick and it’s almost like they’re intentionally trying to ruin college football in the same way they’ve ruined the NFL and a bunch of other classic American institutions.
Who is "they"? Some mysterious cabal headquartered in a remote swamp somewhere hell bent on "ruining" sports?
The USSC ruling basically "legalizing" NIL was LONG overdue. The fact that a politically and ideologically divided Court held such in a unanimous 9-0 vote tells you as much. It was absurd and, frankly, anti-capitalistic that business, and the schools themselves, could profit off of a players Name, Image and/or Likeness without any compensation to the players for use of his/her NIL.
The change in the transfer rules is really the big driver in college "free agency". But that genie has been let out of the bottle and is not going back in. In fact, even the NCAA's last effort to curb the unhindered transferring was eliminated...by the fans!!!! Including fans on here. The last vestige of control was the prohibition on 2X transfers. That is, you couldn't transfer again without sitting out a year (unless a grad student). But, fans and coaches of North Carolina football, West Virginia basketball, and even LSU (Jalen Cook), etc, refused to see past the short-term "win" of wanting the 2x transfers eligible NOW at expense of a greater future "loss". They got their wish. The 2X transfers are immediately eligible and it is unlikely that will change going forward.
So how do you try to manage this new world?
1. Acknowledge what has long been the case: College football is, first and foremost, a multi-billion dollar ENTERTAINMENT BUSINESS and a "scholastic extracurricular endeavor" a distant second. When conferences are signing billion dollar media rights deals, schools are generating millions in revenue, and coaches are being paid 8 figure annual salaries, it's a BUSINESS.
2. Allow the power conferences to break away from the NCAA to form their own league (this will eventually happen). In doing so, allow the players to be considered de facto "employees". That will allow them to form a union and collectively bargain with the new "league". I don't think you can necessarily "cap" NIL (a business owner can always choose to hire a player to promote his business), but it would allow the players to share in the revenue (just like the NFL) and the schools to be able to pay them directly. That's how you could develop a "salary cap" so to speak and other rules regarding contracts and transferring that under the current system would not stand up to judicial scrutiny. Want to implement a rule that prohibits the annual transferring? Have the players union and league agree to the rule. The courts will then be more likely to hold it enforceable because both sides will have agreed to it.
Now, the above is not so easy in practice because outside of college football and men's basketball, no other NCAA sport generates any significant profits. So you have to figure out a way as to how the WBB players, golfers, swimmers, etc will get paid "fairly" (which is a completely nebulous concept). Further complicating things is Title IX. From a pure business perspective, the only players who should be paid high salaries are football and men's basketball players because they are the only sports actually generating a profit. But that can't be the case here because the second one decides to pay the star QB much, much, more than the PG on the women's basketball team, Title IX challenges will start flying.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:53 am to Alt26
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Who is "they"? Some mysterious cabal headquartered in a remote swamp somewhere hell bent on "ruining" sports?
Our Supreme Court. Close though, fricking uneducated moron. I’m not reading your 40 paragraph write up
Posted on 12/29/23 at 11:54 am to LCBayou
The NCAA was woefully unprepared for this tidal wave called NIL. They have abdicated responsibility for governance and that misstep has allowed this change. I played D1 football and was a GA at a D1 program and my experience told me that a. if you were on scholly and the staff wanted to get rid of you, it could be done and b. rarely was that divorce pleasant with very few options for the player. The NIL and transfer rules allow some recourse for the those athletes. I can't imagine an 18 year making more than his position coach, but hey, that's college football today. If Lane Kiffin says that college football has become unrestricted free agency, we ought to listen.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 12:51 pm to Tigerlaff
If anyone 18 or older could go to the NFL, it really WOULD destroy college football. More often than not, if you have a hotshot freshman or sophomore, you can come up with enough NIL money to keep him, if you really want to. But if he decided to jump to the NFL, there's no way to win that bidding war.
The NBA has effectively ruined college basketball as the game it used to be, even with the limited NBA rosters. Can you imagine what carnage the NFL would bring with its 53-man rosters and practice squads
College football is much more of a development sport, taking time to develop position units like the offensive line and the defensive backfield. Start letting anyone pack up for the NFL anytime they like, and college football would be pure garbage.
NIL and the transfer portal need to be better regulated, certainly, but they don't even come close to wrecking the sport like NFL free agency with college players would. If you lose three players to the portal, you can sign three more. If the NFL grabs three of your players...you're just down three players.
Also, people seem to think it's an either/or proposition, but it likely wouldn't be. You want a college football world with NFL drafting any college player they want AND the transfer portal/NIl all existing at the same time?
The NBA has effectively ruined college basketball as the game it used to be, even with the limited NBA rosters. Can you imagine what carnage the NFL would bring with its 53-man rosters and practice squads
College football is much more of a development sport, taking time to develop position units like the offensive line and the defensive backfield. Start letting anyone pack up for the NFL anytime they like, and college football would be pure garbage.
NIL and the transfer portal need to be better regulated, certainly, but they don't even come close to wrecking the sport like NFL free agency with college players would. If you lose three players to the portal, you can sign three more. If the NFL grabs three of your players...you're just down three players.
Also, people seem to think it's an either/or proposition, but it likely wouldn't be. You want a college football world with NFL drafting any college player they want AND the transfer portal/NIl all existing at the same time?
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:17 pm to Shooter
No, not really…
In actuality, it’s pathetic to read yet another inane post by a douche bag that’s bitter and angry at the way his life’s turned out and blames every other than the guy in he mirror….
Have a great day, Boomer!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
In actuality, it’s pathetic to read yet another inane post by a douche bag that’s bitter and angry at the way his life’s turned out and blames every other than the guy in he mirror….
Have a great day, Boomer!
GEAUX TIGERS!!!
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:29 pm to Shooter
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Transfer portal has ruined college sports
Transfer Portal
NIL
Officiating
NCAA
..Have all ruined college sports. Near impossible for me to waste time following CFB.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:35 pm to Shooter
I mean, LSU has benefitted greatly from the portal...
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:39 pm to Shooter
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Athletes should be able to transfer. Unregulated NIL is ruining the sport.
They were all able to transfer before.
Now there’s guys that have been on 4 different teams. What the hell? It’s beyond absurd
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:46 pm to Shooter
Imagine a pro league where players can opt out of any game at any time for any reason, where players can change teams at will for any reason without any penalty.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 1:46 pm to Alt26
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The USSC ruling basically "legalizing" NIL was LONG overdue.
NIL isnt being administered as it should be under "name, image and likeness."
Guys are making millions before stepping on campus. Its ruining the sport.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 2:19 pm to Shooter
They need some kind of structure to transfers and NIL to keep College football from turning into the big money schools hiring mercenaries and only a few being able to compete.
They need to have some sort of a penalty against schools that bring in transfers by throwing more money at them. You could have contracts with buyouts that the new school pays back to the old school. It's already standard practice with coaches.
Or maybe have a form of the NBA's luxury tax. The new school has to pay the old school the lesser of either the difference between new NIL and old NIL deal or the full amount of the original NIL deal. If the player transfers for the same amount of money or less then there is no penalty.
Example: If the first school is giving 100k and the new one offered 150k, then the new school pays the old school 50K. It the old school was paying 100K and the new school is paying 250K then they pay the old school 100K.
They need to have some sort of a penalty against schools that bring in transfers by throwing more money at them. You could have contracts with buyouts that the new school pays back to the old school. It's already standard practice with coaches.
Or maybe have a form of the NBA's luxury tax. The new school has to pay the old school the lesser of either the difference between new NIL and old NIL deal or the full amount of the original NIL deal. If the player transfers for the same amount of money or less then there is no penalty.
Example: If the first school is giving 100k and the new one offered 150k, then the new school pays the old school 50K. It the old school was paying 100K and the new school is paying 250K then they pay the old school 100K.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:13 pm to extremelsu
Whoa.
If we are going to do like the pros, then Start treating these commitments like contracts. Should have to stay put at least two years unless health or coaching change. The pros dont' even practice this kind of free agency crap.
If we are going to do like the pros, then Start treating these commitments like contracts. Should have to stay put at least two years unless health or coaching change. The pros dont' even practice this kind of free agency crap.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:16 pm to BillF
NFL Minor League Farm Teams. High School right to the NFL and NBA. Follow the MLB model and eliminate the top 3 college sports and NCAA.
Stop this scam called amateur sports with bribes and currently unfettered free agency going on.
Stop this scam called amateur sports with bribes and currently unfettered free agency going on.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:20 pm to PUB
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Follow the MLB model and eliminate the top 3 college sports and NCAA.
Do this and say goodbye to every other college sport as well. There would be no such thing as college athletics is you get rid of the big 3 sports.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:37 pm to Shooter
While I agree with yall, we don't win the 2019 natty without a certain transfer QB.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:43 pm to BayouBaw84
exactly and pay back whatever monies they got from a school if they never played for that school and transferred. And they should only be able to transfer one time and they have to sit out every time they do transfer for one year. That would stop a lot of this nonsense.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 3:51 pm to Shooter
Same with players opting out of bowl games. In years past no player ever "opted" out. It's the current selfish "me" mentality.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:02 pm to A Menace to Sobriety
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While I agree with yall, we don't win the 2019 natty without a certain transfer QB
Burrow was a graduate transfer and transfered under the pre portal rules.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:23 pm to Shooter
I too feel much different over the past few years about the college game. Hard to admit that there is more loyalty for a professional athlete than college sports these days.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 4:42 pm to Tigerlaff
Can you say Joe and Jayden!!!!
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