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re: Transfer portal has ruined college sports!!!
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:22 am to ProjectP2294
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:22 am to ProjectP2294
CFB was ruined the moment the regular season no longer mattered over a decade ago.
NIL and the portal are just finishing it off.
As rigged as the sport is, it is time for me to finally start gambling on it. It is beyond predictable at this point, at least during the regular season.
NIL and the portal are just finishing it off.
As rigged as the sport is, it is time for me to finally start gambling on it. It is beyond predictable at this point, at least during the regular season.
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Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:23 am to BayouBaw84
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Yes they should be able to transfer but they should have to sit out a year no matter what to keep them amount of players transferring in check.
Yep. You should have to sit out a year too if you want to change your job, go to a different doctor, hell even change your favorite restaurant. There is zero logical reason you can give to force players to sit out a year just for changing schools.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 8:25 am
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:23 am to Shooter
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College Championships will be tarnished from here on out!
We should vacate our 2019 football title and recent baseball and women’s basketball titles.
Too tarnished.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:27 am to Shooter
Money ruined college sports.
The schools caved in to television. They took the money and did what the networks wanted.
Tradition lost out to the dollar sign. Games were arranged for tv. Kickoff times were set by tv. Games got longer and longer because of tv. Conferences were destroyed because of tv. Rivalry games were lost because if tv.
The schools, ath departments, and coaches prospered. As bigger and bigger tv contracts came rolling in the contracts for everyone got bigger and bigger. Everyone involved got bigger and bigger pieces of the pie except the players.
It was inevitable that the players would eventually get theirs too. The NCAA tried spoon feeding them a little sugar, but the courts looked hard at the situation and blew it all up.
The transfer portal is not what ruined football. It’s just allowing the players to do what the coaches have been doing for years. Cut the best deal for themselves.
The schools caved in to television. They took the money and did what the networks wanted.
Tradition lost out to the dollar sign. Games were arranged for tv. Kickoff times were set by tv. Games got longer and longer because of tv. Conferences were destroyed because of tv. Rivalry games were lost because if tv.
The schools, ath departments, and coaches prospered. As bigger and bigger tv contracts came rolling in the contracts for everyone got bigger and bigger. Everyone involved got bigger and bigger pieces of the pie except the players.
It was inevitable that the players would eventually get theirs too. The NCAA tried spoon feeding them a little sugar, but the courts looked hard at the situation and blew it all up.
The transfer portal is not what ruined football. It’s just allowing the players to do what the coaches have been doing for years. Cut the best deal for themselves.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:27 am to LCTFAN
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This is so untrue, the purpose for these college athletes being allowed to play is to get an education {student athletes}. Transfering from school to school with credits not transfering is not the path to getting educated. Only 1.6 our of every 100 football players actually play in the NFL, a very small percentage while the remaining 98.4 need to find jobs. Playing college football should be an avenue to get educated and elevate future earning power. Yes NIL and the transfer portal will hinder the education of the future players.
That’s cute but it’s simply not based factually. No other “scholarship student” is hindered by transferring schools and neither should sports players.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:28 am to Tigerlaff
People here are missing the point. We already have the NFL. There was no need for another professional sport. You were able to cheer for your college team knowing for the most part that the players were committed to the team and you were committed to the players. That is now gone and it is ruining the sport. Especially now that it is a pay for play league and that is what it is. I am losing interest and as a 44 yr LSU fan it is getting harder and harder to remain one. This is nothing but the result of the immediate gratification society that we've become. 5 years from now there will be no difference between College and the NFL.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:29 am to Tigerlaff
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NIL and unlimited transfers makes the sport worse for the fans.
To you, and some others, sure.
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I don't care if it makes it better for the players.
Yeah, frick em, right? Burrow? Daniels? Skenes? Tanks? Angel? frick em all, it’s all about you.
Just stop watching.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 8:29 am
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:31 am to mcspufftiger7
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People here are missing the point.
We don’t agree. Not the same as missing the point.
Look, I think there’s something wrong with Arch Manning making 3.2 million dollars without starting a single game. But I’m absolutely for athletes looking for a better situation for them and earning money off their own damn name.
The “you have no rights and exist only for the pleasure of bitter boomers lamenting about the perfection of the past” mentality is old and dead. And good riddance.
LSU has 3 recent national championships because of the transfer portal. As a fan (again, it should all be about us right??), I want to see more titles. So do you.
This post was edited on 12/29/23 at 8:38 am
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:36 am to Shooter
He didn't say make it easy with no rules.
The coaches should be under the same rules with transferring.
The coaches should be under the same rules with transferring.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:38 am to mcspufftiger7
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People here are missing the point. We already have the NFL. There was no need for another professional sport.
No one is trying to make another professional sports league.
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You were able to cheer for your college team knowing for the most part that the players were committed to the team and you were committed to the players.
My allegiance now is no different than it ever was. I cheer for LSU, no matter what players are on the team. If they don't want to play for LSU, then they can leave and I won't care about them anymore.
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5 years from now there will be no difference between College and the NFL.
Keep telling yourself this.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:38 am to LCTFAN
The main purpose of the sport originally was not to entertain the fans.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:40 am to LSBoosie
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My allegiance now is no different than it ever was. I cheer for LSU, no matter what players are on the team. If they don't want to play for LSU, then they can leave and I won't care about them anymore.
Yep
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:46 am to gumpinmizzou
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Enlighten me how a student athlete is so different from a non athlete that they should face a barrier to transferring schools.
Feelings, gump! Bitter, fragile, feelings! Nothing more important than that.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:47 am to mcspufftiger7
This entire thing is all about removing the bargaining leverage from universities and conferences when it comes to TV contracts and likeness rights. It has nothing to do with fairness or compensation for players.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 8:52 am to mcspufftiger7
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People here are missing the point. We already have the NFL. There was no need for another professional sport.
I agree. But the transfer portal is not to blame here. This issue is "pay for play" or "NIL"
Any Student should be able to transfer to whatever school they want to attend. Period. Its no different from me attending LSU then deciding to finish up at Texas closer to home.
HOWEVER, the reason you are seeing these athletes transfer like crazy is the "pay for play" disguised as "N.I.L." They want to play and get paid and increase their shot at getting in NFL.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:03 am to Tigerlaff
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wish the NFL would just open the draft to everyone over age 18.
Bingo. This has always been the NFLs mess. They essentially have a feeder program in college football that they don’t have to support financially.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:03 am to LSBoosie
Players getting “processed” is one of the weirder elements to this whole thing. If a student athlete does every single thing asked of them - go to practice, learn playbook inside and out, eat right, get grades, be a good teammate - I don’t see how the school can legally kick them off the team and revoke the scholarship. The coach might *advise* them they’ll never see the playing field and transferring could be a better option for them but clearing room to pursue championship-level players seems odd.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:09 am to mcspufftiger7
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People here are missing the point. We already have the NFL. There was no need for another professional sport. You were able to cheer for your college team knowing for the most part that the players were committed to the team and you were committed to the players
You are missing the point.
Players use to sign a four year deal, but as demands on coaches to win big increased, the rules changed. Players only got one year deals. Good players got their scholarships renewed; while guys that didn’t cut it were let go.
They eventually could get on with snother school, but they had to sit out a year. That wasn’t good.
As coaches got more and more money for winning, they did what they had to do to win. The schools were only committed to the players who could help them win.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:22 am to LSBoosie
Three examples:
* the “sport” of recruiting is over. The excitement over a player’s potential is negated by the likelihood they’ll transfer to Miss State, or wherever, after two years.
* the players get all sorts of benefits from the coaches, nutritionists, academic mentors and trainers and then when it is time for them to run out on the field and help win football games they leave - no return on that investment for the program.
* Bowls are even more meaningless. We already had opt-outs for the NFL and now we also have opt-outs for the portal. Florida State, undefeated ACC champion, is going to send out their third-stringers to play a NY6 bowl.
and…
* yes, I do care whose name is on the back of the jersey. Had Keyshon Boutte, in fact, transferred to Bama but one of THEIR 5-star receivers portaled in to play for LSU, that would not be the same to me. I do fall into the camp of “that’s OUR guy” - as naive as that is…
If you want to have a free agency model, they might want to invent a 3-year contract with 1-year options after that.
* the “sport” of recruiting is over. The excitement over a player’s potential is negated by the likelihood they’ll transfer to Miss State, or wherever, after two years.
* the players get all sorts of benefits from the coaches, nutritionists, academic mentors and trainers and then when it is time for them to run out on the field and help win football games they leave - no return on that investment for the program.
* Bowls are even more meaningless. We already had opt-outs for the NFL and now we also have opt-outs for the portal. Florida State, undefeated ACC champion, is going to send out their third-stringers to play a NY6 bowl.
and…
* yes, I do care whose name is on the back of the jersey. Had Keyshon Boutte, in fact, transferred to Bama but one of THEIR 5-star receivers portaled in to play for LSU, that would not be the same to me. I do fall into the camp of “that’s OUR guy” - as naive as that is…
If you want to have a free agency model, they might want to invent a 3-year contract with 1-year options after that.
Posted on 12/29/23 at 9:27 am to doubleb
What we have is apples and oranges. Coaches are professionals in their field and have gone to school to earn the right to persue their profession. Athletes are students that are still learning their professional futures and receive benefits (scholarships, room and board, publicity, tutoring etc.). They are not professionals and that is where the lines get crossed.
Are you going to pay a medical student as a doctor before he or she finishes school?
This is the beginning of the end of college sports as we knew it. No loyalty, just a chase for the almighty dollar and they won’t be getting any of mine.
Are you going to pay a medical student as a doctor before he or she finishes school?
This is the beginning of the end of college sports as we knew it. No loyalty, just a chase for the almighty dollar and they won’t be getting any of mine.
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