BGP21

That's fine. That said, Sumlin hasn't done either of those things. Clearly USC is a top coaching gig, but coaching at A&M, the only SEC school in Texas and has deep pockets, isn't the "stepping stone" program most here think it is.

I think it's interesting that so many see this as a foregone conclusion that Sumlin is leaving despite him getting commitments from the type of players that wouldn't even give us visits the past ten years. He must be telling these kids something to overcome these rumors which are getting hammered into the recruits minds right now. Guess we'll see, but I think he stays if it's between us and USC. If it's a solid NFL gig, I'm not nearly as confident.

So at this point would y'all take Young and Garrett if both wanted in?

I didn't mean we had a high hit rate in regards to head-to-head recruiting battles for La kids. I'm pretty sure the answer to your question is zero. I meant that the guys we have gotten, whether LSU didn't like them or didn't push for them because of numbers, have been very good for us. Patrick Lewis C, Jonathan Stewart LB, Deshazor Everett DB, Floyd Raven DB, Julien Obioha DE for example, and the guys from last year's recruiting class, Washington, Claiborne and Ellis, have all done very well as freshman. That's why I always like to take a few La kids in each class.

Interesting, thanks. I figured y'all would close up shop after Garrett. A&M sites indicated that we were in the mix. Seemed a little suspect though because I don't think he's even visited.

Despite what many here think, Sumlin isn't a total idiot. If the coaches thought it was bad they wouldn't be going out of their way to tell Noil he's coming.

Maybe, just maybe, we like where we stand with Noil, and want him to work on LF. I know, I know that's just absurd.

I don't know what to think about Mack. Mack is pretty similar to the Noil situation really, only flipped. Mack says LSU is a favorite, A&M folks say he's all A&M and LSU is not a factor; Noil says A&M is a favorite, LSU folks say he's all LSU and A&M is not a factor. Kind of funny.

Have a few question for you guys. I know they have been discussed a lot but I thought I'd try to consolidate this is into one thread.

Who do y'all feel better about, Noil or Willis? Are these guys thought to be a package deal at all?

What's the word on Kenny Young? Seems to be pretty high on our list. Been a while, but last I read on here, other than LSU, Young really liked UCLA (I think), is that still the case?

Any situation that could unfold where y'all wouldn't take any of these guys due to numbers? I know Noil and Willis appear to be takes all the way, not to sure about Young.

Thanks for the info.

They rank them early after watching them play their entire junior season, then they penalize the kids in the rankings who don't have the means to go to all the camps over the summer. So basically a kid who crushes it on the field in actual games falls behind kids who show up at these camps and run a fast 40 or jump really high. I guess it makes it more interesting though.

I think Tony Brown if his sister makes it official to LSU.

Has there been anything new regarding that situation?

The vast majority of Texas fans are arrogant, condescending pole smokers. If you somehow find yourself in a reasonable discussion with a Texas fan regarding football, recruiting, schemes, coaching, etc., brace yourself because once you make a valid point, the conversation is about to take a turn to lame college town smack, grades/education, or Young/McCoy.