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re: AI Program To Execute Commands
Posted by bmela12 on 5/7/26 at 3:39 pm to Chromdome35
My man...
I will rejoice here shortly after playing around in it.
That said...as I understand it, Frontier is Microsoft's AI agent sandbox, correct? Agents in frontier have been released, but are technically still in development?
I will rejoice here shortly after playing around in it.
That said...as I understand it, Frontier is Microsoft's AI agent sandbox, correct? Agents in frontier have been released, but are technically still in development?
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Claude is probably the solution to my problem. However, our company's policies are restrictive bc of IP (understandable) and we have a firewalled CoPilot license. So that coupled with the need to access files in a closed system is currently problematic. At the moment, I don't think we're looking to operate Claude inside our organization's walls. Cost issue, not a "want to" issue.
I asked CoPilot. Problem is, I do not trust it fully. The power automate bridge it alludes to below is similar to the route it suggested I take before. However, I still needed to copy/paste the CoPilot output into power automate just so power automate could copy/paste into excel (extra, unnecessary step).
CoPilot answer:
Short answer: No — in your current setup, Copilot does not expose a general-purpose “push” API that lets it autonomously send data into other apps.?Longer answer below, in plain language and mapped directly to how your environment works.
---
The core reality (plain English)
Copilot today is interaction-driven, not integration-driven
In Microsoft 365:
Copilot can read and reason over your data (pull)
Copilot can suggest, draft, summarize, and interpret
Copilot generally cannot “push” data out on its own
There is no Copilot API that says:
“When Copilot produces insight X, automatically write it into App Y.”
That mechanism does not exist today in the way people usually mean “API.”
---
What does exist (and where confusion usually comes from)
1. Copilot sits on top of other APIs — it is not one itself
Copilot uses:
Microsoft Graph (files, email, calendar, tasks)
App-specific service APIs (Planner, SharePoint, To Do)
But you cannot call “Copilot” as a service and say:
“Here’s output — now send it somewhere else.”
Copilot is not a system integration hub.
---
2. “Push” requires an executor — Copilot alone is not an executor
To push data into another system, something must:
Authenticate
Validate a payload
Know when/where/how to write data
In Microsoft land, that executor is Power Automate, not Copilot.
So the flow looks like this:
You ? Copilot ? (human decision) ? Power Automate ? Other App
Not:
Copilot ? Other App
---
What is possible in your exact setup
? Copilot-assisted push (human-in-the-loop)
You can absolutely do this pattern:
Copilot helps you generate or structure information
You explicitly invoke an action (button, flow, command)
Power Automate pushes the data to:
SharePoint lists
Excel files
Planner
To Do
Email
External systems via connectors / HTTP
Copilot helps with thinking and preparation?Power Automate does execution
This aligns perfectly with your preference for explicit invocation and control.
---
? Copilot Plugins / Graph Connectors (read-heavy, not write-heavy)
Microsoft supports:
Copilot plugins
Graph connectors
Declarative agents
But today these are mainly:
Read-oriented
Context-providing
Scoped to specific apps
They do not give Copilot free-form write authority across systems.
---
?? What you cannot do (today)
You cannot:
Give Copilot a webhook
Let Copilot autonomously trigger writes
Let Copilot decide when to store things
Let Copilot push content to third-party apps without your action
This is largely by design, driven by:
Data governance
Auditability
FOIA considerations
Security boundaries
(Which frankly aligns with how you think about systems.)
---
The mental model to use (this is the key)
Think of Copilot as:
An extremely capable analyst and draft assistant — not a system operator.
Think of Power Automate as:
The system operator that follows explicit, pre-authorized rules.
Copilot:
Thinks
Explains
Suggests
Structures
Power Automate:
Writes
Moves
Sends
Commits
---
What could change this in the future (but not now)
Microsoft is moving toward:
Agent frameworks
Declarative actions
“Copilot-initiated” workflows
But today (May 2026):
They still require explicit human initiation
Or predefined flow triggers
Not free-form Copilot output execution
---
Bottom line (one sentence)
Copilot does not have a push API; it can only assist you in preparing information that you then explicitly push using tools like Power Automate.
If you want, next we can:
Map this directly to your Chief architecture
Design a safe “Copilot ? Flow” handoff pattern
Identify the maximum autonomy you can get without violating governance
Design a “store this now?” interaction that stays human-controlled but friction-low
Just tell me which direction you want to go.
My follow up question: Is copy/paste the only way to get information from copilot to power automate?
Output: Short answer: No — copy/paste is not the only way, but it is the default way unless you deliberately design an execution bridge.
Let me break this down cleanly and precisely for your setup.
---
The blunt truth first
Copilot cannot directly hand off its output to Power Automate as structured input without some intermediary. There is no native “Send to Power Automate” pipe built into Copilot today. 1
So the question becomes:?What intermediaries are realistically available?
---
The four real options (ranked by control and sanity)
1. ? Copy / paste (baseline, lowest automation)
This is what most people do and what Microsoft silently assumes.
Example:
Ask Copilot to structure something (JSON, table, bullets)
Copy
Paste into:
Power Automate “manual trigger” field
Form
Excel
SharePoint list item form
? Pros: Maximum control, zero surprise?? Cons: Manual, brittle, annoying
This is reflected even in internal guidance documents like How to – Use Copilot.onepart, which explicitly relies on copy/paste as a handoff pattern. 2
---
2. ? Files as the bridge (your most practical option)
This is the sweet spot for your governance mindset.
Pattern
Copilot writes output into a file you control:
Word
Excel
OneNote
SharePoint page
Power Automate watches that file:
“When a file is modified”
“When a row is added”
“When a page is updated”
Flow pushes the content onward
Key insight Copilot is very good at writing to files.?Power Automate is very good at reacting to files.
? No copy/paste?? Auditable?? FOIA-defensible?? Explicit user intent?? Scales cleanly
This is fully consistent with Copilot’s design as a Microsoft Graph–grounded tool, not an integration engine. 1
---
3. ? Forms / Lists as controlled handoff points
Another strong option:
Copilot drafts content
You paste or lightly confirm into:
Microsoft Form
SharePoint List item
Flow triggers on submission / creation
This gives you:
Structured fields
Validation
Clear “submit” moment
This is effectively human-approved push, which Microsoft heavily favors for enterprise safety.
---
4. ?? What does not exist (important)
These do not exist today:
“Send this Copilot output to Flow” button
Copilot webhook triggers
Copilot writing directly to connectors
Copilot calling Power Automate APIs itself
Even where Microsoft talks about “end-to-end automation,” it still requires explicit triggers and non-Copilot executors. 1
---
The correct mental model (this matters)
Think of the system this way:
Copilot = Brain
Power Automate = Hands
File / List / Form = Muscles & Tendons
The brain does not directly grab tools.?It signals through structure.
---
The answer to your exact question
Is copy/paste the only way?
No — but it is the only way without designing a bridge.?Once you introduce a file, list, or form, copy/paste is no longer required.
CoPilot answer:
Short answer: No — in your current setup, Copilot does not expose a general-purpose “push” API that lets it autonomously send data into other apps.?Longer answer below, in plain language and mapped directly to how your environment works.
---
The core reality (plain English)
Copilot today is interaction-driven, not integration-driven
In Microsoft 365:
Copilot can read and reason over your data (pull)
Copilot can suggest, draft, summarize, and interpret
Copilot generally cannot “push” data out on its own
There is no Copilot API that says:
“When Copilot produces insight X, automatically write it into App Y.”
That mechanism does not exist today in the way people usually mean “API.”
---
What does exist (and where confusion usually comes from)
1. Copilot sits on top of other APIs — it is not one itself
Copilot uses:
Microsoft Graph (files, email, calendar, tasks)
App-specific service APIs (Planner, SharePoint, To Do)
But you cannot call “Copilot” as a service and say:
“Here’s output — now send it somewhere else.”
Copilot is not a system integration hub.
---
2. “Push” requires an executor — Copilot alone is not an executor
To push data into another system, something must:
Authenticate
Validate a payload
Know when/where/how to write data
In Microsoft land, that executor is Power Automate, not Copilot.
So the flow looks like this:
You ? Copilot ? (human decision) ? Power Automate ? Other App
Not:
Copilot ? Other App
---
What is possible in your exact setup
? Copilot-assisted push (human-in-the-loop)
You can absolutely do this pattern:
Copilot helps you generate or structure information
You explicitly invoke an action (button, flow, command)
Power Automate pushes the data to:
SharePoint lists
Excel files
Planner
To Do
External systems via connectors / HTTP
Copilot helps with thinking and preparation?Power Automate does execution
This aligns perfectly with your preference for explicit invocation and control.
---
? Copilot Plugins / Graph Connectors (read-heavy, not write-heavy)
Microsoft supports:
Copilot plugins
Graph connectors
Declarative agents
But today these are mainly:
Read-oriented
Context-providing
Scoped to specific apps
They do not give Copilot free-form write authority across systems.
---
?? What you cannot do (today)
You cannot:
Give Copilot a webhook
Let Copilot autonomously trigger writes
Let Copilot decide when to store things
Let Copilot push content to third-party apps without your action
This is largely by design, driven by:
Data governance
Auditability
FOIA considerations
Security boundaries
(Which frankly aligns with how you think about systems.)
---
The mental model to use (this is the key)
Think of Copilot as:
An extremely capable analyst and draft assistant — not a system operator.
Think of Power Automate as:
The system operator that follows explicit, pre-authorized rules.
Copilot:
Thinks
Explains
Suggests
Structures
Power Automate:
Writes
Moves
Sends
Commits
---
What could change this in the future (but not now)
Microsoft is moving toward:
Agent frameworks
Declarative actions
“Copilot-initiated” workflows
But today (May 2026):
They still require explicit human initiation
Or predefined flow triggers
Not free-form Copilot output execution
---
Bottom line (one sentence)
Copilot does not have a push API; it can only assist you in preparing information that you then explicitly push using tools like Power Automate.
If you want, next we can:
Map this directly to your Chief architecture
Design a safe “Copilot ? Flow” handoff pattern
Identify the maximum autonomy you can get without violating governance
Design a “store this now?” interaction that stays human-controlled but friction-low
Just tell me which direction you want to go.
My follow up question: Is copy/paste the only way to get information from copilot to power automate?
Output: Short answer: No — copy/paste is not the only way, but it is the default way unless you deliberately design an execution bridge.
Let me break this down cleanly and precisely for your setup.
---
The blunt truth first
Copilot cannot directly hand off its output to Power Automate as structured input without some intermediary. There is no native “Send to Power Automate” pipe built into Copilot today. 1
So the question becomes:?What intermediaries are realistically available?
---
The four real options (ranked by control and sanity)
1. ? Copy / paste (baseline, lowest automation)
This is what most people do and what Microsoft silently assumes.
Example:
Ask Copilot to structure something (JSON, table, bullets)
Copy
Paste into:
Power Automate “manual trigger” field
Form
Excel
SharePoint list item form
? Pros: Maximum control, zero surprise?? Cons: Manual, brittle, annoying
This is reflected even in internal guidance documents like How to – Use Copilot.onepart, which explicitly relies on copy/paste as a handoff pattern. 2
---
2. ? Files as the bridge (your most practical option)
This is the sweet spot for your governance mindset.
Pattern
Copilot writes output into a file you control:
Word
Excel
OneNote
SharePoint page
Power Automate watches that file:
“When a file is modified”
“When a row is added”
“When a page is updated”
Flow pushes the content onward
Key insight Copilot is very good at writing to files.?Power Automate is very good at reacting to files.
? No copy/paste?? Auditable?? FOIA-defensible?? Explicit user intent?? Scales cleanly
This is fully consistent with Copilot’s design as a Microsoft Graph–grounded tool, not an integration engine. 1
---
3. ? Forms / Lists as controlled handoff points
Another strong option:
Copilot drafts content
You paste or lightly confirm into:
Microsoft Form
SharePoint List item
Flow triggers on submission / creation
This gives you:
Structured fields
Validation
Clear “submit” moment
This is effectively human-approved push, which Microsoft heavily favors for enterprise safety.
---
4. ?? What does not exist (important)
These do not exist today:
“Send this Copilot output to Flow” button
Copilot webhook triggers
Copilot writing directly to connectors
Copilot calling Power Automate APIs itself
Even where Microsoft talks about “end-to-end automation,” it still requires explicit triggers and non-Copilot executors. 1
---
The correct mental model (this matters)
Think of the system this way:
Copilot = Brain
Power Automate = Hands
File / List / Form = Muscles & Tendons
The brain does not directly grab tools.?It signals through structure.
---
The answer to your exact question
Is copy/paste the only way?
No — but it is the only way without designing a bridge.?Once you introduce a file, list, or form, copy/paste is no longer required.
quote:
All day long with Claude and the M365, or Word, or Excel, or Powerpoint connector
Two questions. What do you mean by the word, Excel, PowerPoint connector?
Second question has to do with you mentioning M365. The issue I faced was using the desktop Copilot application. That is what told me it could not execute outside of the Chatbot. If you draft documents or create information, I could copy and paste. But it would not execute anything to an already created file, even if I pointed it and asked it to.Am I doing something wrong or am I misunderstanding what you're talking about?
Through work, I have the full copilot.
AI Program To Execute Commands
Posted by bmela12 on 5/7/26 at 7:11 am
I'm not finding a clear answer online and I spent two days on my own CoPilot building a workflow that was doomed before it started. And that was after asking CoPilot how to build it step by step.
Use Case: I use AI to summarize and categorize a meeting. I build the summary and categorize function to identify issues, potential risks, etc. It, for example, identifies an issue. I say "add that to the issue log". It provides me with the issue using a predetermined format. I say "send it", and it adds a row to an existing issue log excel file.
I set up a similar flow recently and it worked great. It was a system for me and CoPilot to talk through an idea, problem, question, etc. I want to "park the idea" for later. I asked CoPilot how to do it. It walked me through the creation of the operation guide it can reference, running congruent with the agent's other governing docs. Boom...it worked. Created the table, asked me if this was correct. I said yes. It said it was sent. I looked later at the excel, blank. I asked it what happened, it said it can create the info, but cannot "reach outside of the chatbot" and execute commands (aka add a row). It suggests we bring in power automate to execute commands. Went down that rabbit hole creating the workflow. Fail...CoPilot could create the table but told me it did not have the ability to copy/paste the info and "give it to power automate". In other words, I could not avoid copy/paste and it was not automated (in the sense of me telling it to execute).
I'd like to know if any of the AI applications out there have the ability to manipulate existing files on command?
Ultimately, CoPilot would be ideal bc our company has a 365 license and I already can point my agents to specific files for logic, reasoning, and reference (extremely helpful). So if I'm just doing something wrong, I'm all ears.
Note: I know CoPilot is embedded in the individual programs (word, excel, etc). I use that feature often.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Now, I'll use my favorite AI prompt here:
Do you understand?
Do you have any questions?
Use Case: I use AI to summarize and categorize a meeting. I build the summary and categorize function to identify issues, potential risks, etc. It, for example, identifies an issue. I say "add that to the issue log". It provides me with the issue using a predetermined format. I say "send it", and it adds a row to an existing issue log excel file.
I set up a similar flow recently and it worked great. It was a system for me and CoPilot to talk through an idea, problem, question, etc. I want to "park the idea" for later. I asked CoPilot how to do it. It walked me through the creation of the operation guide it can reference, running congruent with the agent's other governing docs. Boom...it worked. Created the table, asked me if this was correct. I said yes. It said it was sent. I looked later at the excel, blank. I asked it what happened, it said it can create the info, but cannot "reach outside of the chatbot" and execute commands (aka add a row). It suggests we bring in power automate to execute commands. Went down that rabbit hole creating the workflow. Fail...CoPilot could create the table but told me it did not have the ability to copy/paste the info and "give it to power automate". In other words, I could not avoid copy/paste and it was not automated (in the sense of me telling it to execute).
I'd like to know if any of the AI applications out there have the ability to manipulate existing files on command?
Ultimately, CoPilot would be ideal bc our company has a 365 license and I already can point my agents to specific files for logic, reasoning, and reference (extremely helpful). So if I'm just doing something wrong, I'm all ears.
Note: I know CoPilot is embedded in the individual programs (word, excel, etc). I use that feature often.
Any help is greatly appreciated!!
Now, I'll use my favorite AI prompt here:
Do you understand?
Do you have any questions?
Need some new shoes, daddy!
re: I know the answer, but…
Posted by bmela12 on 3/18/26 at 4:44 pm to SallysHuman
So, continue the status quo. Got it. I'll get back to work. Thanks.
re: I know the answer, but…
Posted by bmela12 on 3/18/26 at 4:36 pm to SallysHuman
I'd rather that than what we currently are dealing with.
I know the answer, but…
Posted by bmela12 on 3/18/26 at 4:30 pm
...I'll ask anyway. If we are entrusted to vote on our fearless leaders, why can't we vote on things like the save act or other legislation?
re: Bottle Jack Seals Help
Posted by bmela12 on 2/20/26 at 6:43 pm to Unobtanium
Bottle Jack Seals Help
Posted by bmela12 on 2/20/26 at 3:49 pm
I'm cleaning up my grandpa's old bottle jack. The plunger (first pic) seal was completely deteriorated and I'm not completely certain the type of replacement seal I need. I have seen similar plungers with what looks like several o-rings, washers, etc stacked. But I am not sure that is what I am looking for.
Does anyone know what type of seal I am looking for?
Unfortunately, I do not know tonnage capacity, brand, etc.
Plunger specs:
OD 12mm
ID 5.7mm
Does anyone know what type of seal I am looking for?
Unfortunately, I do not know tonnage capacity, brand, etc.
Plunger specs:
OD 12mm
ID 5.7mm
re: New Pecue extension
Posted by bmela12 on 2/19/26 at 5:50 am to UptownJoeBrown
Apparently it's open. The Advocate Article
re: Has anybody done the Camino de Santiago?
Posted by bmela12 on 2/13/26 at 6:31 pm to KingOfTheWorld
No insight on the Camino de Santiago, but very glad to hear you and the daughter are doing great.
re: 1/25-1/26 2026 Major Deep South Winter Storm Thread
Posted by bmela12 on 1/26/26 at 1:12 am to DownSouthCrawfish
Yep, light flurries here in Lafayette. Collecting on my bbq pits in the back.
Giving T-Irvs a try. I like idea of chatting up the guy at the launch. Ashland and west of Lafayette are next on my list.
Is the Ashland Boat Launch the public launch by the Ashland Landfill?
re: Pointe Aux Chene Fishing Advice
Posted by bmela12 on 1/3/26 at 5:08 pm to tigersownall
If you have advice I'll take it. But all I have is a 40hp with a shallow v center console and not a terribly big gas tank. Long runs aren't ideal and I can't outrun weather. I'm not comfortable running across the Vermillion Bay, Terrebonne Bay or something similar. Short runs to brackish and/or saltwater is what I'm after. Everyone I know here in Lafayette all gave me the "ehhhhh...you sure?" when I mention the point.
I liked the idea of PAC simply bc it's where kayakers go for reds. So, common sense told me that there are inherently shorter runs there.
I've fished my whole life...in 20+ footers that belong to someone else (the perfect boats!!!). I want to get to know this boat a bit before I am confident on the longer runs for a 40hp 16 footers.
I'm all ears!
I liked the idea of PAC simply bc it's where kayakers go for reds. So, common sense told me that there are inherently shorter runs there.
I've fished my whole life...in 20+ footers that belong to someone else (the perfect boats!!!). I want to get to know this boat a bit before I am confident on the longer runs for a 40hp 16 footers.
I'm all ears!
Pointe Aux Chene Fishing Advice
Posted by bmela12 on 1/2/26 at 6:49 am
I recently got a 16' Lakesport center console with a 40hp Yamaha 2 stroke. Good little boat! I've grown up operating boats, fishing and being on the water...but this is my first time "in charge". I also overthink things...so here I am ha!
I live in Lafayette and want to take the boat out somewhere easy to fish for redfish. Pointe Aux Chene is where I'm leaning. Shorter runs to spots and possibly more traffic should the Lakesport act up - this would be my first "real" trip in the boat after having it serviced and tinkering with it in the Vermillion by the airport.
I posted a while back on where I could take the boat for reds and Delacroix was the overwhelming favorite, but that is a 3+ hour drive. Pointe Aux Chene is closer and I was thinking that PAC Marina was a good spot to launch.
I hear there are motor restrictions out that way. Where can I look up where that applies and what the restrictions are?
Should I run west or east of PAC Marina?
Any places where I can get reports like fishing and/or current trouble spots (like potential spots to run aground)?
Any advice is appreciated!
I live in Lafayette and want to take the boat out somewhere easy to fish for redfish. Pointe Aux Chene is where I'm leaning. Shorter runs to spots and possibly more traffic should the Lakesport act up - this would be my first "real" trip in the boat after having it serviced and tinkering with it in the Vermillion by the airport.
I posted a while back on where I could take the boat for reds and Delacroix was the overwhelming favorite, but that is a 3+ hour drive. Pointe Aux Chene is closer and I was thinking that PAC Marina was a good spot to launch.
I hear there are motor restrictions out that way. Where can I look up where that applies and what the restrictions are?
Should I run west or east of PAC Marina?
Any places where I can get reports like fishing and/or current trouble spots (like potential spots to run aground)?
Any advice is appreciated!
I feel you on not wanting another cooking apparatus on the patio. I have 3 sitting out back now! I bought a flat top for my grill from Steelmade. My built-In pit was not on their list, so I had a custom sized one made. We use it a ton. Comes off easy and stores in a sleeve, out of the way. Their customer service was great.
They even make them for your stovetop inside.
Steelmade Website
They even make them for your stovetop inside.
Steelmade Website
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