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What are the chances Europe opens up fully in 6 months?
Posted on 10/12/21 at 6:48 pm
Posted on 10/12/21 at 6:48 pm
Canceled a long-planned trip to Italy with the wife in May 2020 because of Covid. I have the first half of June 2022 blocked out but I don’t want to plan anything yet. I just read that Italy is pretty open but they are requiring a negative test within 48 hours for all vaccinated travelers from US. I am vaxxed but don’t want to deal with testing.
We may move to another trip on our bucket list, but they’re mostly in Europe. Munich-Innsbruck-Salzburg is appealing, and I don’t think Germany and Austria are requiring much outside of proof of vaccine.
Thanks for any insight.
We may move to another trip on our bucket list, but they’re mostly in Europe. Munich-Innsbruck-Salzburg is appealing, and I don’t think Germany and Austria are requiring much outside of proof of vaccine.
Thanks for any insight.
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Posted on 10/12/21 at 7:44 pm to Slippy
No one knows. It’s pure speculation either way.
I’ve taken 4 international trips in the last 12 months. The different rules were a hassle to research and make sure you got it right. Not enough of a hassle not to go though.
It’s your call. I just can’t see how getting your nose swabbed at CVS is too onerous for a long awaited trip. My parents would call this cutting off your nose to spite your face.
I’ve taken 4 international trips in the last 12 months. The different rules were a hassle to research and make sure you got it right. Not enough of a hassle not to go though.
It’s your call. I just can’t see how getting your nose swabbed at CVS is too onerous for a long awaited trip. My parents would call this cutting off your nose to spite your face.
Posted on 10/12/21 at 10:43 pm to SpringBokCock
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It’s your call. I just can’t see how getting your nose swabbed at CVS is too onerous for a long awaited trip
They're not even hovering over you when you do it, so you don't have to jam it into your brain either if that's a deterrent.
48 hours is pretty tight though. I have doubts Europe or Italy specifically will keep rules like that for the tourist season. Some of those tighter rules came back because the US was being assholes not letting Europeans in.
This post was edited on 10/12/21 at 10:46 pm
Posted on 10/12/21 at 11:16 pm to Slippy
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I just read that Italy is pretty open but they are requiring a negative test within 48 hours for all vaccinated travelers from US.
Italy is allowing the 15 minute rapid test. It’s aggravating but not stopping me from going in a few weeks.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:55 pm to Slippy
Going to London in November. They have the within 2 day arrival testing requirement. I paid for the test via a company (Randox) and they shipped them to my hotel who will store them for me until I arrive. When I get there i take the test, register it online, and drop it in a dropbox to be analyzed. Shouldn’t take more than 15 mins of my time. I would imagine they have a similar setup elsewhere.
I wouldn’t miss a wonderful trip over it.
I wouldn’t miss a wonderful trip over it.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:24 pm to Slippy
We canceled a trip to Spain in May of 2020 for the same reason. I have now booked Spain for May of 2022 and unless something drastic happens we are going.
Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona on May 22. I am stoked!
Spanish Grand Prix in Barcelona on May 22. I am stoked!
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:27 pm to AZBayouBengal07
In France now...have been here for 10 days. Covid is a non-issue other than having to show my CDC card entering the country (instead of a negative test), having to obtain the France covid app (painless other than it being slow), and mask wearing indoors at many places. Positive is generally reduced tourism. I would not hesitate to plan a trip to France under the current circumstances.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 8:49 am to JustinTI
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having to obtain the France covid app
Is this similar to the "green pass" thing I keep seeing for Italy (maybe whole EU?)? Has been a pain trying to figure out how to obtain it.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 10:38 am to lionward2014
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Is this similar to the "green pass" thing I keep seeing for Italy (maybe whole EU?)? Has been a pain trying to figure out how to obtain it.
The France app is just for France, and you need to show to your hotel and restaurants. We had to create an account and enter our travel dates and upload our CDC card to apply. I'm not familiar with the green pass, but it sounds similar.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:01 am to Teddy Ruxpin
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They're not even hovering over you when you do it, so you don't have to jam it into your brain either if that's a deterrent.
Just had one two weeks ago at the local health center for a trip. She told me they don't jam it in your skull anymore. Change in protocols. Barely felt it and took about 10 seconds for both nostrils.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 11:35 am to Slippy
Who knows. My guess in 6 months is it'll look pretty much like it does today. BUT..we ain't getting any younger and it's time to TRAVEL!! 
Europe is open for bizness!
Ain't gonna debate the pros and cons of Viking River Cruises. We love 'em, some think its for the Walking Dead.
BUT:
We're going on our rescheduled (from April 2020) Viking River Cruise at the end of November. Then a week in Czechia thereafter.
NOW..
It's "the new normal" and some aren't going to like the restrictions. Proof of vaccination. PCR testing. Masks in certain instances. I've talked to crew we know and seen some videos of those that have recently gone and it looks great. Less passengers. Minimal restrictions really.
Example of the hoops:
Policy.
Price of admission. Tired of sitting on my arse. Want to travel. Full steam ahead!
So for independent, self directed travel, you still have a lot of hoops. Do you want to deal with them? I don't care anymore, but some will.
Now, flying over and touring once you're there it will vary. Entry requirements for European countries are changing regularly. Although several countries do not require a negative COVID-19 test result for entry.
Germany Example (Need Google Translate Unless You're Fluent!)
You are responsible for getting your own COVID-19 test prior to departure before you fly home. Tests are readily available across Europe.
Europe is open for bizness!
Ain't gonna debate the pros and cons of Viking River Cruises. We love 'em, some think its for the Walking Dead.
BUT:
We're going on our rescheduled (from April 2020) Viking River Cruise at the end of November. Then a week in Czechia thereafter.
NOW..
It's "the new normal" and some aren't going to like the restrictions. Proof of vaccination. PCR testing. Masks in certain instances. I've talked to crew we know and seen some videos of those that have recently gone and it looks great. Less passengers. Minimal restrictions really.
Example of the hoops:
Policy.
Price of admission. Tired of sitting on my arse. Want to travel. Full steam ahead!
So for independent, self directed travel, you still have a lot of hoops. Do you want to deal with them? I don't care anymore, but some will.
Now, flying over and touring once you're there it will vary. Entry requirements for European countries are changing regularly. Although several countries do not require a negative COVID-19 test result for entry.
Germany Example (Need Google Translate Unless You're Fluent!)
You are responsible for getting your own COVID-19 test prior to departure before you fly home. Tests are readily available across Europe.
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:52 pm to Slippy
I just got back from Italy. Everything is open and completely normal other than masks indoors. The testing was easy and really not an issue at all. Just make sure you have somewhere that does fast turnaround. We did eMed tests that you take with you to get back to the US so we didn't have to worry about getting something scheduled at a pharmacy.
It was a great time to visit Europe. Very few tourists and everything felt very positive and optimistic.
It was a great time to visit Europe. Very few tourists and everything felt very positive and optimistic.
This post was edited on 10/14/21 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 10/14/21 at 3:56 pm to JustinTI
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I'm not familiar with the green pass, but it sounds similar.
Green Pass is only for Italians. Just need your CDC card. They say they are enforcing Green Pass anywhere you go inside, but at least right now, the only place we were ever actually checked was at major tourists attractions.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 6:53 am to usc6158
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I just got back from Italy.
Thank you for the update. Since we're going to Germany, Czechia and Austria in late November/December, was wondering if you could elaborate on the steps you had to take to get over there (i.e. vaccination cards? Proof of PCR Test results and how you got them/showed them..). Anything of note?
Thanks!!
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:22 am to Nole Man
I am vaccinated and like others said keeping up with the rules is a pain...was planning to go down to Croatia area and there even if vaxxed you needed a negative test.
So going to Czech instead...Ireland also seems to be back open now if you are vaxxed.
Actually getting back into the US is more of a pain being vaxxed than going to some of these places.
So going to Czech instead...Ireland also seems to be back open now if you are vaxxed.
Actually getting back into the US is more of a pain being vaxxed than going to some of these places.
Posted on 10/15/21 at 8:35 am to Nole Man
Every country is slightly different. In Italy you needed negative PCR 72 hours in advance. We set up through a testing srevice that had 12 hour turnaround for PCR for an extra $50. Was fast and easy.
Once you had your results, you uploaded a picture of your test result, passport information, and Passenger Locator Form (every country has a slightly different one if at all) directly to United. They automated the check on everything and it was all cleared by the time we got to the airport. The check in counter checked our tests, but nothing else. We had our results pulled up in email on our phone.
Once we landed in Rome, immigration was a breeze. We were through in 5 minutes. The agent looked at our vaccine cards for 2 second just to see we had one and that was it. Easiest customs experience I've ever hard.
The process coming back was similar. We had a layover in Germany on a seperate ticket that we thought might be an issue, but was no problem at all.
Overall, it sounded complex and annoying, but really ended up not being a big deal at all.
Once you had your results, you uploaded a picture of your test result, passport information, and Passenger Locator Form (every country has a slightly different one if at all) directly to United. They automated the check on everything and it was all cleared by the time we got to the airport. The check in counter checked our tests, but nothing else. We had our results pulled up in email on our phone.
Once we landed in Rome, immigration was a breeze. We were through in 5 minutes. The agent looked at our vaccine cards for 2 second just to see we had one and that was it. Easiest customs experience I've ever hard.
The process coming back was similar. We had a layover in Germany on a seperate ticket that we thought might be an issue, but was no problem at all.
Overall, it sounded complex and annoying, but really ended up not being a big deal at all.
This post was edited on 10/15/21 at 8:36 am
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